Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast

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hey Ryan good job on that um Bill KY interview no joke oh hell of a job oh
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thanks guys I appreciate that truly I do appreciate Mike pushing you over the edge because it made for a really
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interesting part of that conversation and also he seemed to take it in stride
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which was really cool well yeah he both owned it figuratively and literally you know even his insight into how every
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medieval Fanfare is based on that same trone yeah yeah that's crazy it was
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clear which two songs I was talking about right though yeah yeah okay go in the distance you like that
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I I was so mad at myself got to fly I don't know why I read somewhere that
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there was some kind of conflict between him and slone that's why Rocky 4 never happened that was my total takeaway too
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and I was like there's more to that story more than he wasn't asked why wouldn't Sly ask him when I did the
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interview with Vince TOA he did mention that there was some sort of falling out between Bill and SGH yeah yeah that was
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my memory too when when I spoke to him if there was or wasn't what I got from bill was he was like you know I admit I
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was a little bit upset I didn't get asked it seems like they wanted me for part five there you go and part six he
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seemed to be pretty fourth coming by saying there's no mystery you know I just wasn't asked what is his take on it yeah which could be completely true from
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his his end things yeah whether he suggested a sound and then Sly was like no we want a different sound but which
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doesn't make sense because in that interview bill says he wanted something different I don't know who knows who knows who knows anyone when it comes to
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Sly sometimes I don't know yeah yeah I rented the movie on YouTube oh I'm sorry
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yeah I know it's five it's five bucks down the drain actually we shouldn't give it away right now I shouldn't I
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shouldn't give away why did you get it on YouTube did Andy V send it to us he did and I really appreciate that he did
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and for me guys personally I like captions and this movie was horrible audio and I'm glad I got the captions
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you guys don't have to but for me personally I'm going to use this to kind of cue me with the I I wrote notes but I found that this is not a very in-depth
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movie I'm looking forward to Doug's plot synopsis oh okay all
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right so if you guys want you can look to the screen as I'm looking to the screen and it help cue you guys who
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wants to start it off we're officially on live podcast or it's not streaming out to the ethos this is the portion of
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the podcast that people are going to start listening to sure sure why not all right cool hey before we get into Lord
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Flatbush Ryan I just want my birds to uh to chime in
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no I want to say if anybody's listening to this and they haven't already listened to Ryan's interview with Bill
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Ki stop this recording because you're not going to get any value out of this and go listen to Ryan's conversation if
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you're at all interested in Stallone and more importantly Rocky Ryan your conversation with Bill was excellent
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thank you man I really appreciate that it was a real honor and privileged to talk to Mr Ki and it was an amazing
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experience something I never thought I would ever do you know here's young Ryan three and a half decades ago watching
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Rocky for the first time and little did I know that I would actually talk to the composer of that great theme and and
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score for those movies so yeah great privilege thank you Craig you're very welcome it was extremely well done and I
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got to say he was a a great sport a man of his age his recollection seems on
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point he was willing to put in the time with you too which is really cool even though you called him an hour early
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yeah yeah and I swear I punched in Pensacola cuz that's what his publicist
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told me where he's at was Pensacola Florida I'm like okay I punched that in and it matched the time on my computer
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so I'm like okay we're the same time zone but I guess he's just close enough to Alabama we're we're not the same time zone so oh well I never would have
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thought that there's any part of Florida that's in the central time zone neither did I that was the first I'd ever heard of that Doug likewise so I wasn't
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completely off my rocker then no but I would agree with Craig you did a phenomenal job with that interview Bill
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kti seemed more than gracious and I I hope that was a put on I really hope he was as nice to you as as he appeared to
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be on the recording he was awesome he was awesome in fact for the record he he thought the interview was only going to be a half hour long and so we actually
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took a 10-minute break and he was totally gracious with his time it wasn't until that last half hour where I kind
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of powered through things and I and I had things I wanted to ask him and I was that's why I was saying like I could talk to him for another 3 hours cuz
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there's things I just didn't get a chance to ask him I wanted to ask him about Masters of the Universe you know and I just just oh yeah just wasn't
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enough time let's uh introduce who we are I'll start I'm as was stated I'm Ryan I'm I'm the host with my brother
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Ruben not of late because of our just me not living in the same town as ribbon anymore people that listen to the show
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know the whole story there uh we do uh the rocky series and other such topics
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on the uh Going the Distance the rocky series podcast and this is such a topic right now is where we join forces with
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you two guys so those are my feed I surprised if you're listening to this episode don't know who these guys are but what do you
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guys introduce yourselves and where you come from I'm Doug my podcast is Rocky minute we cover the Rocky movies in
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great great detail one minute of movie time at a time we have two full seasons
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and we're currently recording for season 3 so stand by season 3 to be released
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probably later this fall nice and I'm Craig Cohen with the slidecast on the sly cast we take a uh year-by-year
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journey through sly career and we're taking our time doing it uh we're currently in the um early 90s we've got
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a whole Archive of episodes for you to go listen to while we prep our next episodes It's year by year meaning in
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real time right like Craig you're taking as much time in between movies yes we're replicating sly's actual schedule good
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uh when he was filming well I was gonna say there's a two releases I'm really looking forward to hearing uh Judge Dread is that on the
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go oh my God guys guys I don't know what it is that has been one of the most
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difficult edits for me I sit down and I edit it and I spend feels like two hours
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and then I'm like wow I made it four minutes it's if I have any idea what child birth
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is like I think Judge Dread is it give that one to Jeff Ferry because he's not doing anything right
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now Craig we have that interview they he did with me about Creed 2 yeah so so
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Ryan at this point I think it'll be in our IAL release where we'll you know on the we're coming up on the an the Oney
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year anniversary of Creed 2 there you go so I figured that would be a perfect opportunity to release that and it's
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really interesting Ryan because seeing our opinions my opinion your opinion and
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Mike K's opinion especially on Creed 2 when it was released as opposed to today
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I'm sure everybody's feelings have changed a little bit you know what would be interesting is to do an updated review of Creed 2 and see how that
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compares with their initial reactions for better for worse yeah yeah with the exception of the Drago portions of that
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movie A lot of people have sort of turned around on it and it doesn't seem like it gets as much love as it did when
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it hit theaters okay well I'm just going to say it right now then CU who knows when I'll get to cre 2 on my on my show
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cuz it's going to be a while and I've actually contemplated for my listeners I've actually contemplated how much am I going to cover the Creed franchise
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because it is the rocky series podcast and I do have an end game in mind like when Rocky Bell B was done that was
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initially the end game keep the feed out there archived and start another podcast but Creed 1 and two I think how I'm
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going to do it is I might just cover the sly scenes and I'll tell you something here I'm not a big fan of Michael B
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Jordan I don't care the guy's never going to come on my show there's something about him and you know Carl
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Weathers for example when he came off that bravado in the Rocky franchise you didn't dislike Apollo ever he had a
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likeability I found myself with Creed 1 warming up to Adon a little bit because
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of maybe just the way he is and the what he's but it's like oh no he was raised in a beautiful home so he's a privileged
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person I'm torn about Michael B Jordan maybe as a a person in real life I I don't know what it is and also Tessa
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Thompson same thing I think she's a horrible actress I think she's a terrible actress uh I really do and when
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she's on screen she is boring she is not captivating she does not grab me and um
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of course they're both black which makes me seem like a total racist and that's not it at all I think that's part of the
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problem with the Creed movies is I think people try to talk themselves into liking them because they're black actor
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and actress let's just talk about Black Panther that was directed by Ryan cougler to this day I have yet to finish
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the last half hour I don't know if the direction is at fall I was bored that is a very boring movie and I'm afraid like
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I'm not allowed to say that like I feel like we're not allowed to say that black panther feels like it could have been
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trimmed by about 20 minutes I thought Michael B Jordan's character was I think
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he was an excellent villain and I think his PO his performance was appropriate I've watched that movie once it was a
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little bit of a chore to get through he does a bit of a chore and which is the first time any Marvel movies made me feel that way the guy that plays Black
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Panther he's really charismatic I forget his name and I think it's hard to pronounce too he's great charismatic as the Black Panther when he's on screen
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he's like he was a non-issue for me as far as playing the character black panther but the story itself and I know
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Couer had a hand of writing that I I'm not trying to crap on these guys cuz they obiously have more Talent than I'll
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ever have when it comes to making movies it's just as a audience member it's their job to entertain me that's what
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they're doing I mean uh and I'm the ticket buyer and I just feel like with the Creed films I'm kind of torn some of
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the backstory stuff we heard or S inside stories we've heard especially with cre 2 and how Sly was treated I feel like he
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was pushed out I feel like I just it kind of breaks my heart because I'm A sly fan first these are the New Kids on
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the Block Creed 2 would not exist without the rocky character no and Creed 2 wasn't bringing in Creed fans it was
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the rocky fans were real the real audience for the Creed movies of course there was a generation of creed fans
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that came out of seeing a great boxing movie but wide majority of people that went to see those movies are rocky fans
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yeah but in all fairness if Sly wanted to make another Rocky movie he should
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have just he should have lobbied to have the Creed movies called Rocky seven and Rocky eight well that's he didn't he
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didn't he didn't he actually turned it down he actually really didn't want to do this but he you know he loved the Creed script it was a good script I mean
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look there's a lot of great I love those films don't here here's the thing I'm torn cuz I there's like you're saying Craig there's lots of parts of the film
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that I love but the parts that I love are all the rocky parts and then in part to the Drago parts and the rocky Parts
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every time s's on screen and the rocky character's on screen you're just totally engaged you're like oh good he's back oh good he's back there's a a
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definite difference in the chemistry between Rocky and Adrian and Adonis Creed and and uh what's her name Christ
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I can't Bianca that's how unmemorable their chemistry was their scen you know
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what the main problem is there's there's two problems with the Creed movies he didn't have a paully and he didn't have a
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robot yeah he did have a robot Tessa Thompson's [Laughter]
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acting nicely done but I mean I think I think one of the biggest mistakes that Sly made as a
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screenwriter with cougler on that first Creed was killing Paulie there was no reason to do it well I think cougler
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didn't write Paulie I think also there would have been so much potential to inject the Paulie character into that
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Universe it could be argued that Paulie was racist I mean we kind of saw it in Rocky
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3 and I think it would have been really interesting to see Paulie interacting you know with those characters these are
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going to be the discussions that we're going to have and I hopefully we'll have you guys on as guess as I've had with other Seasons uh when it comes to the
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Creed films they'll probably be just shorter seasons for those who are listening who love the creep films I
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just want to say don't stop listening to my show I do love many many parts of the Creed films that's the debate and the
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fact some of the debate is is Creed a part of the rocky franchise there we go so I think we're kind of beaten around
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the flat Bush here because we're oh man you're full of them today
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Doug are you ready for the synopsis yeah yeah yeah I mean well okay cool I had a
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problem I had a problem here with writing the synopsis okay because I found myself Court away through the
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movie and I hadn't written anything down because there was nothing to write down I didn't know how to summarize this
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movie so what I did uh I cheated a little bit I went to Wikipedia and took
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their synopsis sure that's fair it was barely a synopsis I know but it's it's
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more than what I could have come up with so here we go set in 1958 The Coming of
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Age story follows four Brooklyn teenagers known as the Lords of Flatbush the Lords chase girls steal cars shoot
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pool and hang out at a local Malt Shop the film focuses on Chico played by Perry King attempting to win over Jane
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played by Susan Blakeley a girl who wants to do little with him Stanley Sylvester Stallone who impregnates his
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girlfriend Franny who pressures him to marry her Stanley agrees to marry her
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even after finding out before the wedding that frany may never have been pregnant in the first place buty
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Weinstein herry way Winkler is highly intelligent but hides his brains behind a clownish front which uh took all of
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about 2 minutes to detail in the movie while wimpy Paul mace is a loyal
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follower in awe of Chico and Stanley and this guy I don't even know why he's
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there well you'll never have to worry about Paul mace again is he dead he's dead and Paul mace played wimpy mgalo
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and he was kind of like the smaller version of like these four guys are all kind of especially Perry King and Stone
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pretty in real life they're pretty big guys they're pretty strong big guys they're kind of like big gun dug over
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there I'm kind of like Henry Winkler and Craig you're kind of like Paul mace if you
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were just but that being said the actor Paul mace who played wimpy he died at
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the age of 33 in a car accident now check that's sad yeah it is sad and that was actually n years after this film was
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made what's even sadder earlier that year his wife died in a different car
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accident at the age of 39 wow isn't that weird so both husband and wife the same
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year in different in two different car accidents passed away wow and she was six years older than him yes wow yeah so
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that's kind of a a sad piece of history but that being said it doesn't change the fact that Paul ma wasn't great sucks
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yeah can we just jump right to the lead here and talk about how we really wish
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that the director had chosen to side with Richard Gear here because then we wouldn't be talking about this movie why
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don't we talk right away about the rich of gear incident sure so the Perry King character Chico was supposed to be
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played by Richard Gear and and they got as far as what rehearsing rehearsals and
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they may have done some footage cuz I have the uh the quote here that Stallone himself gives about the Richard Gear
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incident if you want to hear it sure and it's fair to Sly that he actually Sly
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himself doesn't paint himself in a great light as well because they're both young at the time uh and brash probably
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individuals a type personalities so he says we never hit it off him and gear he
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would strut around in his oversized motorcycle jacket like he was the baddest Knight at the round table one
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day during an improv he grabbed me we were simulating a fight scene and he got carried away a little I told him in a
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gentle fashion to lighten up but he was completely in character because of such was impossible to deal with then we were
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rehearsing at Cony Island and it was lunchtime so we decided to take a break and the only place that was warm was in the back seat of a Toyota car I was
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eating a hot dog and he climbs in with half a chicken covered in mustard with grease nearly dripping out of the
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aluminum paper and I said that thing is going to drip all over the place and then he said don't worry about it and I
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said hey if it gets on my pants you're going to know about it he proceeds to bite into the chicken and a small greasy
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River of mustard lands on my thigh I elbowed him in the side of the head and
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basically pushed him out of the car the director had to make make a choice one of us had to go one of us had to stay
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Richard was given his walking papers and to this day seriously dislikes me end quote all right look they didn't like
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each other and they're not the first actors to not like each other not the first humans in the same working Place who don't don't like each other it's
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fair the director says look you guys can't work together we got to recast one of you and they chose slide to stay but
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in 1975 74 that's ballsy of Sylvester Stallone saying it's him or me cuz gear
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was an established actor by that point was he not yeah I mean he had done what his big breakout was American last
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American jiggalo or oh American jiggalo wasn't until 1980 his first movie was 1975 so this was one of his first gigs
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and he got fired off his first gig his first movie was a 1975's report to the commissioner and Lords of the Flatbush
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came out in' 74 so Richard Gear wasn't unknown at this time they were just two struggling actors fighting for uh
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jocking for position well you have to wonder if the director saw more
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potential in Stallone or was more responsive to the fact that Sly was able
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to contribute from a writing perspective because it's my understanding that Stallone tweaked a lot of the dialogue
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in this movie he added some additional dialogue and I can guarantee you where that dialogue was added so we got the
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synopsis this was directed by firsttime writer director Martin Davidson and it was also co-directed and and it was
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co-directed on the film as well by producers Steven F Verona so the two of them Steven and Martin directed this film Steven Verona and Martin Davidson
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that both also wrote it but it says here yes Sylvester Salone gave some additional dialogue and I I guarantee
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you that additional dialogue was sly's dialogue in that one scene by the pigeon coup yeah I thought it was remarkable
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the way they made Stallone look like a big hulking character he's not a big guy in real life so that's the first really
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big problem is we get them you know being delinquents you know they're out front of a school I don't know how it
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was for you guys when they go in the classroom you're like what are these 25-year-old guys do in in high school I
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got the movie playing in the background here to help queue us along they're out there outside the school and I thought
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when I first saw this film I didn't read any synopsis I went to this cold I had no idea what this movie was about only from what I've seen on the front cover
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that there are four guys wearing leather jackets with Lords of the flap Bush on the back of the jackets and I thought
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they were like a motorcycle gang or just obviously a gang in general and they iing girls and people as they walk into
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class and I thought it was a university class I thought at least it was a University campus it turns out I had no idea this was a high school movie this
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just speaks to bad writing and bad everything cuz Stallone and Henry Winkler were both 28 at the time of this
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filming MH nothing as bad as the story is nothing would have been lost further
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had they just made this a university classroom right the setting really plays no part the school setting plays no part
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in the plot if there is one in fact you could argue that the characters are
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acting in many ways well beyond their age the whole the marriage idea and all this stuff though people did get married
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at Young ages but they're still literally in high school M the four guys are all smoking outside and uh they're
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combing their hair they're all pretty bad you know there's a part like oh these guys are bad these guys are Bad Dudes but they're basically just class
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clowns yeah they're not a gang by like traditional gang standards they're part
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have a sports club sports club that's the joke that they keep yeah they're athletic social club because they play
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pool together oh and uh stickball was stick ball a thing weren't they playing
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something yeah they're playing stick ball so there's stickball do you want to talk about the rocky influences that come up in this film there's a few of
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them as we go through them but you brought it one up there Doug the stick ball sequence I want to point out something before we continue with this
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now that we're on Rocky real quick Perry King who's I guess by all tense and purposes the lead right character in
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this Perry King good-looking dude when Stallone was pitching Rocky to the
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studio they had a screening of Lords of Flatbush so they could see Sylvester Stallone in action yeah they green lit
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the movie thinking that Perry K was Sylvester Stallone based on his portrayal in this movie so they thought
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that Perry King was the one that was going to be playing Rocky which is wild because I I don't know if your mileage
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may vary but I don't think his performance in this movie is good at all
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no no but I guess they they said like a you know a tall goodlooking guy who you
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know even though he's kind of blond hair blue-eyed could still play an Italian guy sure why not Robert Redford was in a
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running also yeah they green L it based on that yeah Perry King he definitely has a more standard Hollywood look to
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him but in also many ways there's times where he's almost like a Sly lookalike yeah I see they they resemble each other
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in some scenes so this poor teacher now you guys went through high school I went through high school and why is it in
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movies that the high school class is completely the teacher leaves the classroom the class schools completely
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Bonkers when the teacher leaves they play pranks on her desk they write offensive terms on the board they just
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go completely nuts yeah it's the whole you know when the cat's away the the mice will play kind of mindset did you
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guys ever experience this kind of jocularity in your childhood or no not to this level yeah not to that not to
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that degree no I mean we all kind of fooled around but I mean the whole idea that they're just all in on causing
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chaos for this poor teacher this might be a sign that I'm getting older I hated the guys for doing this I hated every
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single one of them yeah nobody nobody thought they were I think that's more of
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a comment on where you're at now Craig than where you were it's not even like she was mean either if they had made her
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a mean teacher it might have played a little bit better for me but I mean she's taken attendance and she's you
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know it's home room I mean how mean can a Home Room teacher be agreed so we got
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uh our first kind of Sly moment here he's goofing around she separated uh
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Stanley and uh Chico because they're fooling around so he's told to sit at the front and he sits down but he
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doesn't like where he's sitting because he says there's a draft coming in from the window or something or a glare come
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on up here Mr roell shut I am keeping you separated like this so we don't have any more of that
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delinquent behavior that we have had in the past is that clear Mr Rella what do you think you are
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doing well it just seem to be a draft going across that seat I just thought I'd moved back so I wouldn't get in the draft all right but just don't make me
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throw you out I was to that another draft Mr rello don't
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know what it is I don't know what it is whatever I sit there seems to be a dra either that's the sunlights in my eyes you don't mind if I move back here do
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you I I thought it was clever I thought it was a fun character moment yeah so far
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in the film I'm just thinking okay this is totally not going where I thought I was going it's a little bit silly it's a little bit Fast Times rmon High type
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thing we got these four Dudes everyone's just chewing gum this whole movie by the way everyone's just chewing gum chewing
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gum and smoking cigarettes or having a match in your mouth while you're smoking do you remember that
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part no oh Sly Sly had a match in his mouth while he was smoking he was
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channeling his Cobra Eddie that's where he got the idea man
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there was things in this film that he remembered and took with him in further films think about this movie was 11
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years before cobra that's it Jesus lot can change in 11 years it's amazing how
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much can change 11 years yeah what I also thought was interesting about this film Was Not only was the sound quality
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terrible and the editing terrible but I love how there were so many scenes that were out of focus the focus wasn't right
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yeah well I got to say that this is probably a really good example of lowbudget film making in the 70s and
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there's probably a lot more films like this than let's say like a Mean Streets or a rocky hm that's fair what was the
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budget on this very low I actually forgot to look I mean I know it was the box office wasn't listed because it was
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so low um let's see here okay so oh the box office was 4 million in 1974 which
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is almost like 20 million today so it wasn't a compl compl dud no and now on Rotten Tomatoes it has like 65% like
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approval there's not a lot of reviews that generate that 66% all right you're right it wasn't a
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complete bomb it was a low budget there's no way the movie costs 4 million to make so it made its money back for
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sure there's no way this movie cost 4 million I mean Rocky won two years later was $1 million so we got a scene here
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the four guys playing stickball and let me just say there's a few things in this movie that just wouldn't work today as
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far as far as the me too movement goes yeah yeah the cat calling and the
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you know the grabbing women and stuff that's I mean it wouldn't translate today but again this is 1958 when all
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this kind of crap was going on do they establish the year not in the film itself but just the idea of the way
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they're dressed and the they're in The Malt shops all the time it said in the synopsis that it was 58 oh but not in
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the film itself they don't mention it's the ' 50s necessarily this movie was filmed in 7 4 it's taken place in 1958
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that's only 16 years prior isn't it weird that 16 years ago was for us was 2003 if that's insane you just blew my
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mind so if you were to film a movie today that was based in 2003 your mind
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doesn't go to a different era yeah but in the 70s they were already looking at the late 50s as a different time you
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know the Jukebox The Malt shops greasers and the preps why is it nowadays that
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that kind of change in a DEC and a half there's no um identity in 2003 compared to 2019 the way there was between 1958
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and 74 I think you nailed it Ryan there's not as much going on culturally
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in terms of shifts and stuff like that and maybe it might take 30 years for us to really notice a marked you know
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markedly different look between 2003 and 2019 you could almost argue that the
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late 90s were the last real definable I think the 90s is is kind of the the
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sticking point this scene here with them playing pool yes this wimpy and and this
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who is this guy this is the only character moment for Wimpy right yes okay what what are we doing here I have
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no idea I felt that way when it was over there was a part of me where
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another movie was happening I thought we were going to take a dark turn here I thought this guy was going to like shive
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wimpy in the pool hall and the three guys are going to have to like do some sort of Revenge gang likee revenge on
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the Wimpy's death cuz this guy comes in with a business suit and tie they're at a pool hall for listeners there's a
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scene here where Wimpy's at a pool hall playing pool by himself it's a public pool hall so another guy walks in he's
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wearing a shirt and tie he's a little bit older but not much older than wimpy and they're making conversation and part
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of the conversation is he notices the this business attired guy notices that wimpy looks like he's in a gang so he's
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like oh you're part of a gang huh what's your gang all about and all this stuff asking them questions what kind of a thing is that
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is it kind of club or something yeah it's a what you might call a social Athletic Club you know we uh play a
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little ball bust a few
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heads never hear of the Jays no where they from hav you Jay oh yeah yeah I think I
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remember hearing about that you know we broke up would you ever a Lo this qu you
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know you remind me of a guy I used to know he used to be in the Jays little short guy we used to call him uh
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Mouse you going to call a little fellow named Mouse he's only 5'3 yeah well let me tell you something first of all I'm
28:35
not 5'3 I'm 5'6 and second of all it ain't the size man it's whether or not you got balls you know and I was under
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the impression that this guy knew already knew the answers and maybe these guys the Lords of Flatbush had done
28:47
something to kind of upset a bigger gang my brain was going somewhere where hey we've got something going on here this
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mysterious character and a suent Tai and he actually mentions you know I used to be in a game too I used to be in a gang
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called the JS cuz we were from Avenue J and we were called the Jays and so I thought it was again going to go towards
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something of like you know but now we know now we run Wall Street or now we run you know the Real Deals now we run
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drugs or something something to raise the stakes so I was actually really truly believing this was going somewhere
29:19
but it did not go anywhere now his only character Moment Like I said do you see the potential what it could have been
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with this character yeah I even forgot the conversation about the Jays and
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stuff like the ri it could have been a rival gang thing this is really the only
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scene like in my synopsis that I got off of be really looks up to Chico and Stanley and he you know wants to emulate
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them or whatever this is the only clue to that because he talks about like all I got to do is snap my fingers and my
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guys come I like to know if I get in trouble I could Snap My Fingers man and the Lords come out running you know like
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I feel good around my friend Stanley he's what do you call my uh my insurance
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hey wh hey Stan you go that's it that's the end of whippy oh I wanted to say
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something about the soundtrack please so they didn't license any music right all this is original
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originally written please don't tell me that this is produced music because this this soundtrack is a mess it's it's
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horrible like generic doop hey
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hey what are you saying looks like it's going to be a very fine day my girl is
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with me today looks like it's going to be a very fine day hey hey what do you
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say you never know what might happen today who knows what's coming my way
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looks like it's going to be terrible it is awful beginning to end
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crap doop garbage I wondered about that because the songs fit the story a little
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too well yeah that's why I think they were all written for it in the doop style they got like some cheesy uh down
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the block bar band to record some doop hits for him not hits not hits doop
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music it's awful the music in this is terrible so s's character Stanley comes
31:27
into to quote unquote save wimpy cuz wimy goes you know I just have to snap my fingers and my buddies come and
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Stanley roughs up this poor business guy who's literally now we find out he's literally there just play pool and these
31:38
guys thought it was funny to prank this guy to punk him and just and that they're going to kill him but they don't
31:44
but they just this poor guy leaves the establishment thinking that his life was on the line that was the whole setup here that's how this scene ends no if he
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was on avue J wouldn't talk like that now want to tell you something about avue J I eat avue J
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game H Hey Moy what's say uh you and me play on game of pool huh good idea yeah
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I'll rack them up $5 a throw right good go ahead and break give me my
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dollar back I think it's my shot normally it would be this ain't no game for me man
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but here we play by my listen I'll see you guys around hey
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don't do that do what what you hey who is this guy he's the guy that's going to tell me to kill you tell you to
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what Hey listen Maybe one at a time or something but not three against
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one hey do you know who I am do you know who I am huh I tell you something I
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don't like no fuing people come around your mouth you understand okay okay I don't like okay take off moose man
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around take off [Applause]
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I like that guy he's all right he's got B you know what I mean as he can't beat me he's all right come on come on all
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right all right I don't get it again it just paints these guys as not good
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people like and again I might be showing my maturity if nothing else when I was 18 I might have felt a lot differently
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about these characters it's hard to root for these guys yeah they roughed this guy up for no reason and then send him
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off and they start chuckling at him after the guy leav they start laughing you you guys want to talk about this beach scene so Chico has a girlfriend
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her the girlfriend's name is wait no Annie Annie Annie is Chico's frny is see
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yeah that's what a mess this is yeah so speaking of mess well just wait just wait Chico and
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Annie they go to the beach for a special little date here which is kind of romantic and she's like why are we here
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why are we the beach and to me it's like you know that's actually a romantic gesture to go to the beach no really I
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thought you were going to take me out for a change I got old dress stuff hey you look terrific do I yeah
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Chico you think maybe tomorrow night we could go into New York City you know like maybe to the rocky or
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something really [Music]
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classy but she's like why don't we go to New York City tomorrow and he's like okay sure sure we'll go to New York they
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put the blanket on the beach and they're sitting there and they're talking Chico here he wants to get it on with his
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girlfriend they're dating him and this Annie girl they seem to be dating and here's where the me too movement stuff
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comes in a little bit because she says Chico no Chico no and he's like yeah
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yeah you want this and you know he keeps going gets his hand under her dress and under her clothes and she's kind of like
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struggling a little bit but kissing him at the same time we're led to believe that Chico was
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some Casanova right and he says just so you know Chico this is where Franny and that Stanley's girlfriend got got
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pregnant not too long ago CH you know this is where Fry got pregnant by
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Stanley not too long ago so that's her I guess dirty talk but it's not she's
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trying to tell him she's trying to tell him like you know maybe we should slow it down I I don't want to get pregnant
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like Franny did so I again she's saying No this is really bad because she's already verbalized no he hasn't stopped
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and now she's saying look you're not going to stop okay but maybe don't go all the way with me so he starts kissing
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her and he sits on top of her but he do you guys want to explain it you're doing a great
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job he's quick on the trigger yeah their clothes are still on he hasn't done
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anything he only kissed for 20 seconds and he uh as as Annie says you made a mess
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Chico you made a mess right what's the purpose of this I
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I I don't know what the purpose of any of this is Ryan let's say Annie had been like all out let's do this Chico let's
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Chico would have made it getting his socks off if that's all it took for him to do that it was quick he wasn't able
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to uh sustain 202 make out session I actually thought that they were in the
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process he he was able to uh seal the deal and then look look they're panting
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out right now so he's just made a mess and there's no attempt he's just her dress is down his pants are up yeah
36:28
maybe maybe it was through his zipper that's a dangerous way to do it maybe but yeah and which is funny because it
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plays into a later scene when he's talking to the guys where they want to you know how to go how to go with how' you how'd you do it how you know how to
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go and he's like I you know you know he downplayed cuz he was embarrassed and this is where the teenager stuff comes
36:48
in because we know as an actor this guy's 28 but we're supposed to believe he's 17 not even close I
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can't this is probably be a terrible episode because I can't even think of anything to say to this Craig I don't
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know what to say I the fans voted for us to do this
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one so I don't I don't know so you're blaming them Craig what are you explain
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what you mean by that talk about what's going on here I'm bitter that's basically all it
37:20
is came through in our chats on Facebook but I want you to tell the fans what they've done here what they're the ones
37:25
who've made this episode what it is look guys this movie is horrible okay this is an absolutely terrible film and we're
37:33
trying to make sense of this garbage and we're trying to do this for you guys we're taking time out away from our family our my
37:39
weekend the podcasting is supposed to be fun I am not having a good time and I don't know how our listeners can have a
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good time when we're trying to talk about this film where we have guys playing 17y olds or 28 who are finishing
37:52
too early like what's going on here this is coming from a group of guys that covered
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uh The Specialist stoer my mom will shoot uh and Ryan's opinion over the top
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and we hate this movie so much more than that yeah I'll watch over the top any
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day of the week over this I I will never ever watch oh wow no this this is terrible so let's slog on through guys
38:16
and give the fans what they want Craig I want you to say what the fans have done what's happened here you have put Death
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Race 2000 how many times up for a vote it feels like more times than I should have it seems like the first time you
38:28
put Death Race 2000 up for a vote it should win but obviously our listeners don't enjoy that movie for whatever
38:34
reason maybe there's not enough Stallone in it I really don't know it's a great Sly movie to talk about and our
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listeners don't want us to talk about it so there's nothing I can do about it well then let's slog on through this and
38:46
get get it over with now Chico is going out with this new girl right that he met in class
38:53
we're not there yet so he just had this date with Annie right took her home home and now he's on the phone and he's
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calling Jane who is the new girl in school so he's changed his jeans of
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course I would assume at this point and he's on the phone calling another girl he's good to go for another date the
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girl's father answers the phone saying yeah look it's kind of late dude who are you he's like tell her that Carl esin is
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calling which is not his fake or real name oh uh is Jane there yes sir I
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realized it's late but I've been trying to get her would you tell her Carl kin is calling ohello Jan yes Chico from
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class and uh he goes yeah it's Chico from class and the next scene is now daylight but they're on a motorcycle
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together on a I guess it's like a day date they spend the whole day together which in of itself isn't a bad date like
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Chico to his credit I think he kind of knows how to throw a date yeah con
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Island you guys know this area better than me is that what this is I think it's Cony Island that's at the tip of
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Brooklyn yeah it looks like it to Chico's credit he knows how to throw a date he just doesn't know how to finish
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a date this is one of the areas where the the music really pissed me off
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because there's a song playing over this entire date Montage that it I can't I
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can't picture it right now because I watched this a week ago and it's already mostly out of my mind I have a note here
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that the song is [Music]
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terrible you and me riding down the road hey if feels good to ride
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together hold down tight with all your might don't feel good to ride together
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the way I'm feeling today I never thought I could be so
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happy having you by my side has the girl that we ride the girl that we ride
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playing over this date Montage it is a dating Montage yeah yeah maybe this is where
41:09
Stallone got the idea for montages definitely where he got the idea where it look cool to ride a
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motorcycle everywhere Perry keing got to do this in the film without that Sly yeah they spent the whole day together
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literally from dawn to dusk and they're kissing by the end of the date Chico wants more looks like Jane and Chico had
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a really fun time together and he took her home and she got home by night time and they just kissed each other goodbye
41:34
there you go that was that scene so I guess Chico's making no bones about it that he's kind of dating Jane and he's
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dating Annie cuz Annie mentions later in the film that he he she knows that he's
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dating Jane what's the matter Chico really don't you want to see me
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[Music] anymore acting like a real hyena
41:58
[Music] well you know if you gets tired of Little Miss white bread you could give
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me all right let's move on yeah I'm not sure this movie deserves
42:15
the scene by scene I don't know what to do here guys I'm just okay well this is
42:22
a big scene because now we have Sly chewing look guys he's chewing on his match watch the match watch the match
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he's yeah he's chewing on his match and now Franny sorry yeah Franny is telling
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tell telling Stanley that she's pregnant Stanley's like well are you sure it's
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mine what about all the other guys you sleep with I'm late what my friend I'm a
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month late with my friend what friend is that friend Stanley I'm pregnant that
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rubber band didn't work what are you going to do tell me with the guys and I'll kill him friend
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what are you going to do I mean I'm doing nothing what do I got to do what do I got to do well we can announ our
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engagement in the Brooklyn Eagle next week no F no way you you it seems like they're pretty uh
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they're pretty open everyone seems to be pretty open about dating and sleeping around with other people the 50s Man
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actually that was before like the sexual Revolution wasn't that the 60s so people weren't weren't really doing this kind
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of stuff weren weren't people more um like shy and reserved back in the 50s I think that's the glorified sanitized
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version of the 50s I actually think the 50s were a lot more rough than I think
43:36
history tells us and I have no experience because I wasn't alive some erors of our history get sort of
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sanitized and put on a pedestal and that wasn't the reality well Frank says she's pregnant
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because the rubber Bandon work yeah what the hell is that about how graphic do we want to get here
43:58
the rubber band was for for Stanley right yeah I don't see any other way it could work okay so you cut off the blood
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supply and so maybe it wouldn't get all the way out no I kind of feel like you were doing it between
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um the torpedo for lack of a better word and the um torpedo tube like you know
44:19
how like if you wanted to uh prevent a water balloon from leaking you would tie it off is that what they were thinking
44:25
that was my takeaway knows this is a podcasting low point for me
44:31
guys all of all of us it sounds painful whatever it is Craig hang in there
44:37
brother Franny says that she's pregnant Stanley goes you're pregnant I'm not you
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you're the one who pregnant not me you one Mo FR why not some of these other guys huh you know there's nobody
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else yeah I know I know I was like oh wow that's uh he
44:57
actually says one of the worst digs I've ever heard of character say in one of these films how come you couldn't be
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pretty damn why ain't you
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pretty I missed that one what's interesting is Franny the actress she is
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very attractive like I think I think she like she's my type I don't know I think she's quite attractive maybe it's maybe
45:20
the that New York talk kind of thing is is a is something unique to me as a Western Canadian but uh I find her and
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Annie actually both actresses are actually quite attractive in their own right I mean they're played up to look different a little bit you know what do
45:32
you call it you know I don't want like to use the word inappropriate words I got to use a bad word okay I got to use
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a bad word [ __ ] [ __ ] that's from Rocky Ryan saying this
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about young ladies oh watch Ryan said Craig why do you have this new host on
45:50
your slidecast podcast I don't like this guy shut up and play Rocky yeah stream
45:57
the movie already but look at her here I think she's quite attractive don't you think yeah I would agree yeah no same
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same here she wants him to marry her right yes now knowing how this movie ends I guess spoil alert for
46:11
any she's not pregnant so she uses she uses the pregnancy scare to get these
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girls the heroes of the story and actually my favorite actors or my favorite characters in the story are the two girls they were actually the best
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part of the film whatever ever this film is they're the best part all right whatever that means I'll believe you
46:31
Craig do you have do you have a favorite part um when it says the end your point about the female actors
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in this movie is spot on but I got to say we don't see a lot of them in this movie but you can understand why Henry
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Winkler went on to have the career that he had did you see uh right at the end of
46:50
the scene when Stallone when Stanley sets up this pull shot he completely whips on it yeah I think that was
46:56
intentional but it was good I hope it was intentional I don't know if it was man I don't know if it was intentional that's true maybe it was a flub but look
47:03
guys he's got the match in his mouth and he's smoking right look right there match and a cigarette all right all
47:08
right all right that's funny have you ever seen that before ever in a film is that the match he just lit a cigarette with or is that a new match it's a it's
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a unused match wow I will say that sly's performance not withstanding the
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terrible quality of the movie he's actually acting it's not that bad it's for first time is type role like you can
47:28
see where the Charisma was captured by some people in the early days yeah I I do like his part in this even though
47:35
he's kind of a jerk more Chico crap yeah so CH well Chico is the main character
47:41
and Chico is now wearing a pink shirt salmon color shirt ready to go on his date with Jane which and it turns out
47:47
the date that he's got coming up with Jane is a babysitting gig with Jane and the younger sister while the parents go
47:53
out to the uh some military function this is the first time here when we get an inking that Jane isn't completely all
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in on Chico no she enjoyed the first date she sees with this date with Chico
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in the house with the parents when the parents go out to the to the military function or whatever dance or dinner
48:12
that Chico is all about getting it on with her and she doesn't feel safe with
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that it also doesn't help that the 8-year-old sister is watching them little creepy you know they're making
48:23
out and and she says that he makes her nervous right he he takes offense to
48:29
that you know it's just that you make me very nervous sometimes Chico yeah yeah
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well maybe I wouldn't make you so nervous if I wasn't here okay yeah and there's also a a great genuine line of
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dialogue in the in this scene where he says I love you and she asked him what
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color her eyes are what color my eyes
48:53
purple that was a really good moment I mean it's it's a genuine moment it kind
48:58
of Illustrated her desire to see how invested in her she was I mean something
49:06
as simple as knowing what color your partner's eyes are it was a a really genuine moment in a pretty lousy movie I
49:13
remember that being a thing back in the 90s back in the 90s when I when I was growing up you know and I had my first
49:19
girlfriend and everything you know she would ask me stupid little questions like that to see if I'm paying attention to her if or I'm really into her or if
49:26
I'm I'm just into getting some I thought that too because it's showing her that maybe she does like this guy a little
49:31
bit but she's kind of sensing and maybe rightfully so the Chico's just trying to literally get under her skirt and she's
49:37
like you say you love me but you don't even know anything about me so it's yeah kind of exposes CH a little bit all
49:43
right now we're at a scene here where Franny and Annie are discussing the future engagement to Stanley by picking out a ring the ring that they pick out
49:51
to buy the one they fall in love with is $1,600 in 1958 great I want hear what
49:57
this is worth in today's dollars it's insane and in fact I actually Googled like what the guy I did a lot of homework here guys I Googled what the
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guy said about it being the bagette and the platinum and the one and a half carot like I just Googled that ring
50:09
today what would come up and not only is it the same price with the inflation so it's accurate so the price of that ring
50:15
was accurate for that time because it's it stands today to be the same price with the inflation if that makes sense so yes okay so drum roll please I have
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it written down give a sec okay I can't find it it's
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$16,000 wow sorry 14 yeah sorry $14,000 and then he's sorry $14,000
50:36
today's money that's a lot of money so for them to for them to look at a ring
50:42
that costs 14 Grand in what way shape or form would they think that a 18-year-old
50:47
high school student would have do you know any 18-year-old high school students today that have 14 Grand in
50:54
their pocket any adults that have 14 Grand Grand to blow on a ring that not ones that live in flat Bush no no later
51:02
in the movie they put Stanley in a very uncomfortable you know I think there's a part of them that did want to marry this
51:07
girl but she says this marriage is worth 14 Grand of a ring and it was marked down from 21 Grand is what it worked out
51:13
to be so that's a lot of money all I'm saying is for them to say that like it just shows the Ridiculousness of their
51:20
own behavior saying oh yeah 14 Grand he's good for it he can just get a job
51:25
working 9 to5 you know how long it would take you to pay off 14 Grand oh hello are you Mr burn bam of burn bam Brothers
51:33
I'm the son can I help you um yes you can we'd like to see that ring please who's it
51:40
for it's my friend here is this the one that's it oh it's a beautiful ring come
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on try it on oh oh Annie look at that is just gorgeous that is the most stunning
51:54
thing I have ever seen in my whole life oh it's gorgeous look oh I've got to
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have it defin it's me I know it's really me I've never seen anything so beautiful
52:06
in my whole life what is D going to say I just tell him to get a job from 9 to 5 don't worry about yeah but then he's not
52:11
going to be able to go to come uh excuse me but how much is that R let me see
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this is a 1 and 1/2 karat Marquee setting with the two
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baguettes $1,600 $1600 uh that is including the
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baguettes of course of course um do you have a layway plan here
52:34
yes we do well that's good well what time you open till we're open till 9:00 every night um
52:44
well could you put that ring away for us and we'll be back and pick it up of course I can okay now don't sell it to
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anyone I won't sell it to anybody else okay we'll definitely be back oh look for you thank you okay than thanks for
52:57
calling byebye see you later so yeah it's crazy okay so to Chico's all mad
53:03
about the date not working out he he leaves her to finish babysitting so he goes to The Malt Shop actually actually
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Ryan I I just Googled real quick the average price of a home in
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1958 was was $10,000 and the average income was
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4,650 so Jesus that ring would cost a quarter of the average in
53:27
and he wasn't working he was a high school student look at these guys at the table here don't they look 17 no they really don't none of them do
53:37
I don't understand his punch for- punch thing either okay so what happened here so we're at the Mt shop all four guys
53:42
and Henry Winkler is now in the movie almost really for the first time he's been in one scene where they're cat
53:48
calling the girls at the beginning and he's now in the scene with them 35 minutes into the film to again so he
53:55
wasn't in the film for half an an hour at this point so Chico truly is the star of the show this is preppy days not much
54:01
not not much pre but this is before Happy Days yeah and this has to be the scene that Sly referenced rehearsing
54:07
with with Richard Gear right yes exactly exactly oh maybe where they got a little
54:13
physical they're asking Chico how did the date go tell us you know kiss and tell what was she like what were her
54:20
lady Parts like they want to know so they're talking like 17-year-olds but they're not talking like 28-year olds
54:25
what it do you hey man did you tell her we all share and share a like around here I'm sorry I didn't happen to
54:32
mention you guys you just didn't come up in the conversation you didn't tell her about us not even me Chico what are you
54:40
Lord you said nothing about me that Manan you get your hands on those lemons lemons grapes grapes pits
54:48
P what you do so it's hard for me as a viewer of the show to separate the
54:53
dialogue with the physical nature of these men and Chico's not giving anything up
54:59
because a nothing happened but he's too embarrassed to admit that nothing happened and Stanley size character is
55:05
like come on man tell me I'll tell you stuff that I've done and we'll uh we'll we'll trade we'll trade lwd stories with
55:12
each other but you got to but I want to hear yours or whatever but we're going to fight for it and whoever whimps out first with this punching contest I'll
55:18
punch you in the arm you punch me in the arm and the first one to tap out you know has to lay out all the uh luid sto
55:24
allured stories of your girl come on what you do what do you want you want to get your rocks off in my
55:33
days yeah well you got your own little pepperoni
55:39
man why don't we trade hits hey come on man CH why why don't we trade hits okay
55:44
huh come on wait a minute we trade hits and uh if you lose you tell me everything yeah what if I
55:51
win what I'm leaving if you I'm leaving TI of you I wouldn't P if I come
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on my money is on Chico man I just don't want to mess up
56:07
your hair you know fixing I'll tell you what you going take off my rings so I don't hurt you thanks
56:13
than easy listen chica when it's over I want your bike I'll take good care
56:19
of come on you want to go first man you lose you want to take it
56:27
so that's what happened here but they're they end up just being angry at each other in general cuz they're both kind
56:33
of alpha males and they want to be a leader of this uh Rat Pack pool gang that's about what I got from here
56:40
and that's SL that's slide taking out his anger on Richard gear but I thought this was going to get
56:46
real but then it doesn't it's just a big old damn Love Fest you know what the most interesting thing in this scene is
56:52
is the Coca-Cola ad that doesn't have a Coca-Cola on it's got a like a piece of
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cake that's awesome I just that's great so when they were
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punching each other in the arm looks like they were hit each other pretty good there yeah it does and then like
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they it gets real for a second but then you know Stanley Scoops up Chico and
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then they laugh and have a grand old time and the girls come in and yeah so the girls decide that the part's over
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yeah the girls walk in and Annie goes to Chico and like hey Chico you're not calling me anymore you don't want to
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hang out anymore I know you're banging or trying to bang other girls but I'm still here if you want me Chico's like
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no I really got this thinging for Jane right now sorry I I'll come back to you if it doesn't work out with Jane but they do this thing where he's just like
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looking around giggling when she's trying to get an answer out of him and like there there's too many long pauses
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where there's nothing happening there are a lot of weird pauses this is I
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chalk it up to bad editing not just bad writing but there's times where the actors or the characters are both I don't know which they're just looking at
58:01
each other laughing I'm like what are you guys laughing at what's so funny this movie clocks in at an hour and 24
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minutes can you imagine you take away some of those moments of Silence between characters it would have a running time
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shorter than Death Race 2000 which is probably Sly shortest movie where does that come at that's like under an hour
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and 20 minutes you should have done that one anyway
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oh boy can't handle another heartbreak party of kitty instead versus
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Death Race come on I already know what we're going to be talking about Craig I
58:37
don't want to lose you as a as a co-host we need you we need you for the show you're you're anal part of these conversations I I can't lose you the
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girls come in they talk to their boys and Stanley and Franny are talking about
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their marriage or their engagement or whatever coming up and or what have you Annie says that she wants to leave but
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Stanley says you can't leave till I tell you goes now okay now you can go let's go you go and I tell her to go
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go bye Stanley it was really nice spending time with you
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again and so when they leave he laughs like it's just again like it's a big joke he acts really tough but when the
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people are out of sight that he's acting tough with whether it was the guy in the suit at the pool hall or his girlfriend or fiance he then this laughs like it's
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a big joke it's like I'm tough and I'm a jerk but when the people that I'm a jerk to are gone the biggest act or the
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biggest prank they've ever pulled I'm like I don't get why it's that funny dude like you're just acting like a jerk they're not in on the joke they just
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think you're a jerk I again have nothing to say okay now here's a here is integral scene coming up here because we
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have Jane leaving the school the guys are hey Chico your girl's leaving your girl's leaving and they find out that
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she's going to another guy this guy's from a different high school he's got like a prep jacket a nice car and she
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drives away with this guy from a different School in a car and they're like well in order for us three to help
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Chico or buddy to score Jane again we need to get him a car the motorcycle is
1:00:06
not enough that's their reasoning and the way that they're going to get a car guys is they're going to steal a car hot
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wire car from an auto garage shop you know what Chico really needs
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Chico needs a car yeah yeah you want to steal a car yeah I can hot wire any car
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in the world you steal it all hot wire man I can drive any car don't you worry Chico hey you guys find the car and I'll
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started the car been built that I can't start all right got this garage yeah I hope CH appreciates
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this that is literally the storyline am I missing anything here no it's a real bad kid gang land
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type thing to do so their buddy doesn't have a car so they're like well in order
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for our buddy to to get it good with Jan we got to get him a car so we're going to steal one and the whole G is that
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they're going to hotwire a car but it turns out that the car that they're hotwiring has keys and
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ignition well I lied you lied I lied I seen it
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once in the movie I thought I might be able to do it I lied damn it we're C on you're lying oh God damn who's whose
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idea was it your idea was your idea keep it down keep it he's got the key put the car you st
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the sir that was that was the joke oh that's a joke yeah I think the idea was
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they go through the idea was they go through this whole like five minute stealth scene they're in a garage a
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guy's working on a car under the car they sneak in and the mechanic sees them take off and he's kind of like I don't
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care you're that you're the whole gag was the mechanic that's there doesn't care that they're stealing the car the car has keys and yeah oh man I missed that I
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missed the the humor in that Craig I wasn't laughing
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Jesus so the re you asked for this fans you asked for this now the reason why they're taking a car is because in the
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future part of the movie Here Chico gets another date with Jane it's to take her to the drive-in that's the whole idea
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you can't go to drive-in with a motorcycle that's a one of the questions one of the few notes that I had about
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this so she said that he makes her nervous and he got pissed and stormed out right next time she sees him she
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completely ignores him and goes with the frat boy he gets a car and all of a sudden they're out together again yeah
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exactly oh okay his mom gives him $10 again I worked this out that's $100 in
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today's money all right that's for night at the movies well that's almost what you need
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between the movie tickets and the popcorn that and the gas that's about 100 bucks the mom is there at this uh
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they're playing maong or something yeah something like that and her mom's got like six friends over
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there and they all just Heckle and and gawk over Chico they say oh check out
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the Clift in your chin oh aren't you a strapping young lad oh if it doesn't work out with her come back to us and
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the pineapple is beautiful oh look who's here David how are you oh God look
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at un I can't believe the same boy you remember him when he was he looks just
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like you image of you oh that c I love it can I have 10
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oh what are you going to do with $10 you got to same old story all the money again is
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she nice girl is she worth $10 you want to take out my daughter she's
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beautiful when are you going to call my love to hear from you and that would be
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113 well if you don't get with this game have a good time enjoy all right
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have a piece of pineapple no that's okay good night David good night
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with all the Talking around here how can you remember what you're playing they're
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just they're a lonely housewives so he's driving the stolen car to the drive-in did you catch the
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movie they were watching at the drive-in From Here to Eternity which came out 5 years before
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the events of this film was it common for what yeah it came out in 53 in real
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life oh oh oh okay sorry yeah so within the world of this movie this picture
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yeah yeah yeah so did movies last that long in the drivein do you guys know about that if movies were five years
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running in the drive-in they could have they could have been revivals yeah yeah because there's no VH
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back then a rental so yeah yeah I think revivals were pretty popular or it could
1:04:47
have been a double feature where you got an old film and a new film but the idea here is the scenes
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that they saw from from here eternity kind of paralleled their date in the car which again just Chico just starts
1:05:01
making out with her you know their Netflix and chilling and he gets down to her bra and and she actually takes it
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off and his whole pickup line throughout this whole uh seduction sequence is do you
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trust me do you trust me trust [Applause]
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me you dring
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there's that service trust me in Kentucky [Laughter]
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[Music] [Applause] and she goes yeah do you trust me she
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goes mhm she's giggling so he's like okay green light and he goes do you trust me and then at some point she says
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no what is the trust that he is giving her he has her like six goddamn times
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yeah it's annoying I don't care I don't care what the trust is what is she answering I think the editor fell asleep
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and was supposed to cut after the first one and then realized that nobody would give a [ __ ] and just moved on the
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director was in the backs and ask her again yeah so we'll use one of these takes
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just keep asking her well she goes did you miss me and he's like no did you miss me no so she's insinuating that
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there was a time that they weren't together cuz she was dating this guy for a different high school they're very fast and loose with seeing other people
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okay I then we have a sequence here where the four guys CR three of the Lords of Flatbush are singing with their
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geeky friend Mr Cohan I think his name is actually last name Cohan it's crazy
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Cohen isn't it yeah crazy Cohen that's right is that what they call you Craig crazy Co I've been called that before
1:06:47
yes it's one of these moments in the film where we see the three of them can snc Okay can snc pretty good and that's
1:06:54
why they're doing this fil time and Sly is doing the low Barone and I think Sly has always fancied himself or always has
1:07:02
wanted to be a singer and he just can't but he somehow finds himself singing in films whether it's rhinestone or the
1:07:08
rocky films he always finds himself singing at [Music]
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[Music] yeah the [Music]
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[Applause]
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does anyone want to explain why he does that why he insists on trying to be a singer because his brother Frank is an
1:07:43
excellent singer and I think it probably bothers him and he wants to show Frank that he's you know better than him at
1:07:50
that as well gonna comment on Frank too I think they're competitive as brothers
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well Frank win is a singer hands down I mean nobody's gonna debate that still nothing to you know Snicker at got money
1:08:03
I don't he's got more money and U followers on Twitter than I'll ever have
1:08:08
and and and I got to say this that Frank you know he's got some good performances
1:08:13
in movies as well um he's got a really really small part in Tombstone which I
1:08:19
think is really good I don't think he ever really tried to be a full-time actor but he's got some ability
1:08:26
agreed and I hope to one day speak to Frank well hope to speak to Sly as well but I just don't think that's ever going
1:08:32
to happen I met Frank a couple years ago oh at a convention you know I got to talk to him for quite a few minutes he
1:08:39
was a nice engaging guy I have a picture somewhere I'll see if I can dig it up
1:08:44
and and post it for you guys awesome please do so we have our one little acting sequence here with henway
1:08:50
wrinkler when he was told by The Malt Shop owner Eddie what's his name in this film buty Butchie you know Butchie I
1:08:57
could tell that you're a smart guy and you're hanging out with these bums and when you have coconut friends you become a coconut yeah yeah that's basically
1:09:04
what the guy's saying yep hey Eddie why do you think we spend so much
1:09:09
time in this stinking Place must be my egg creams yeah I guess
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so buty um you mind if I uh stick my two cents
1:09:22
in worth where it don't belong can I stop you you sure you don't mind me butting in
1:09:28
Eddie as long as you don't come over here and give me a great big kiss anything goes that's what I mean that's
1:09:33
exactly it what you're a wise guy me I ain't no genius but I'm smarter
1:09:41
than you because you're a schmuck oh is that it I mean you finished no I'm
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not you're a schmuck because you got brains not a lot but you got brains and
1:09:53
you're wased them oh don't stop now man you're just getting hot I ought to be taking notes all right forget it no no no don't
1:10:01
forget it you know what I'm going to do I'm going to go home tonight Eddie and I'm going to paint you a masterpiece you
1:10:07
know what I think I think that this little talk tonight has done me a world of good get the hell out of here Eddie
1:10:14
I'm going to do something wonderful with my life and I owe it all to you hey
1:10:19
Eddie good night here we are like an hour into the movie and we get a Butchy St story line
1:10:26
it comes out of nowhere and it doesn't amount to anything nowadays if you're going to put this in here then at the
1:10:33
end Butch is going to leave the gang and go off and do something with his life but usess character everybody's useless
1:10:40
character cuz there is nothing there is no character Arc that's closed none we're back to the drive-in and she takes
1:10:47
off her bra you see that and the camera actually pans down to show you that her bra has come down but the lighting so
1:10:54
terrible You Don't See anything so what's the point of teasing the audience like that I don't know cameraman took a
1:11:00
shot there's no nudity or cursing in this film there's one sword in the film that's it I'm surprised that you look
1:11:06
that closely at it I just noticed I was cuz I was wondering how adult this film would be cuz it deals with a you know
1:11:12
adult type it never sees anything all the way through Craig you pointed out before about filling time too with the
1:11:18
dead silences and stuff the beginning of this scene is another part because we watched about 2 minutes of from here to
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eternity before before they go back to Chico And
1:11:30
whatever suie or whatever her name is well the sequence was the two characters from here to Eternity Making Love on the
1:11:38
beach and I think that was Chico signal to like hey what you see on screen we can do in the car if you want and uh so now she's putting her
1:11:46
clothes back on crying he's like why are you he's like and I I kind of get his frustration he's like what is going on
1:11:51
here you come on a date with me and then you start getting undressed you put your clothes back on what's going on on and then she says why doesn't want to be
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another one of your floes trust
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[Music] me don't cry hey what's the
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matter what's the
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matter tell me what's the matter don't you like us
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together it's not well tell me what is it I don't know tell
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me I don't want to talk about it yeah well I want to talk about it would would
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I hurt you or something come on tell me what it is I want to talk about it
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you're so beautiful come on found out wasting look I don't want to be just
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another what thought I had something to I don't want to be that what Chico I
1:12:52
don't want to talk about it I want to talk about it tell me look I just don't want to be just
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another I don't want that never seen R get so upset in a movie before that's
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fair but I think Chico's a virgin that's also fair cuz we kind of got that with
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his uh you know early you know I think he's chasing sex I don't think he's ever had it hey guys I got to go throw up
1:13:19
I'll be back in a minute yeah yeah please take your time I thought you be
1:13:26
now this is all pointless and let's do you think any of our
1:13:32
listeners have gotten this far probably not this is going to be one of the worst listed to episodes one of the least
1:13:38
Craig probably Craig might have really left he maybe he was not feeling well he
1:13:43
might he seemed a little bit off Craig are you throwing up for real oh okay okay we'll keep yeah let's I don't think
1:13:51
Craig is is missing anything here no we'll keep they have another fight they another fight and and they leave right
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yeah this is uh what three spes out now this scene coming up here so Chico's had a bad no third date bad date with Jane
1:14:05
it has not gone well he goes over to but's house and Butchie is writing in his journal you know cuz now he got that
1:14:12
talk from Eddie here's one of these out of focus scenes here look how out of focus this is yeah yeah wow Chico's like hey I want
1:14:22
to talk to you brother you know you're the sensitive one in the group the one who's intelligent I want you to hear my thoughts about uh Jane and what have you
1:14:29
but if I had watched this scene not knowing anything about this film I swear these two guys had a thing for each
1:14:34
other lovers well it looks like Henry Winkler's character Butchie
1:14:41
ironically is kind of is kind of got a thing look look how
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he sits and how he talks to Chico what you do tonight special
1:14:56
what you I took to the
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driving how far' you get
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hey do you want to help me dump the car come on help me dump the car
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okay it is late tomorrow what you pissed off unus
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who's pissed off I'm not pissed off what's with you
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man L Jane want to talk about
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it well there isn't uh there's much to
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say I mean what can I say you got nothing to say I can go to
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sleep okay it's very bizarre to me this whole scene too because I think it's an attt
1:15:55
at really sentimental scene between two friends where you know a tough guy like Chico is going to open up to his
1:16:01
sensitive friend Butch again ironic but I find nothing between these
1:16:08
two guys there's no chemistry or feeling that these two are good friends no the
1:16:13
whole thing looks forced but look how he's sitting I'm sorry it just seems oh man is he he is
1:16:22
manspreading it's Henry dinkler my
1:16:29
God I think there was a rumor going around too a long time ago that Henry Winkler was gay I think it's just his
1:16:36
his mannerisms by the way let me just say Henry Winkler gay or not I obviously we don't care we don't care at all he's
1:16:43
a great person in real life totally and and it was funny when I was watching this to see how Henry Winkler has sort
1:16:49
of aged gracefully whereas you know we see what you know how Stallone's presenting him self at you know 70 plus
1:16:56
years of age it's an interesting contrast just age the same age they're
1:17:02
both the same age yes they are yeah both are 73 now granted Sly has a you know a
1:17:08
stronger more physique body than Henry does I just saw Henry Winkler and the CL and O'Brien Show recently promoting the
1:17:13
children's books that he's writing which is really cool it's okay to get old like there's no shame in that have you guys
1:17:18
seen the um have you seen that show Barry that Henry Winkler's on no but I've heard it's quite good though oh
1:17:24
it's phenomenal it's basically about a Hitman played by Bill hater who goes to
1:17:30
LA on a job and decides to become an actor and Henry Winkler plays an acting
1:17:36
coach who sort of kind of scammy two seasons so far really worth watching watch that instead of you know putting
1:17:43
your eyes on Lords of Flatbush for an hour and 24 minutes this is actually the best scene
1:17:48
in the film well here they are here the Happy couple congratulations yeah yes thanks oh we
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came for it let me get it you know something Stanley you've got the best
1:18:01
girl in all of Brooklyn yeah yeah I know you do look at that ring oh Stanley
1:18:07
couldn't you just picture that on her finger isn't this a beauty let me try it on I want you to know something about
1:18:14
this ring it's an investment in the future oh oh Stanley isn't it beautiful
1:18:20
this is the ring I wanted in my life Stanley you know they grow more valuable in time wait wait a minute Annie tell me
1:18:27
something about this ring well it's a 1 and 1/2 karat Marquee in a platinum
1:18:35
setting two baguettes it's a beauty no no no no no no no no no don't me about
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it oh $1,600
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16 hey burn bomb you got something else over there say something about the same size do you have something like that huh
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yeah try look let's get out of here Stanley we could do it on the layway plan Stanley
1:19:01
could even have them consign I don't want nothing on consignment any tell me again how much is
1:19:07
it how much is that ring the other ring this yeah the ring she has
1:19:12
it this ring is um $1,600 it's it's marked down from
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$2,200 and it's a steel it's a beautiful ring Hey listen to me listen to me I'll
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get you an ID bracelet or something right you cheap you are so cheap Stanley
1:19:31
hey hey me want going while your you know I'm I'm saving for I'm saving for a car I'm saing for car for a car you know
1:19:37
that's all you everever think of is money money money you know something I don't think I'm going to even let you marry my
1:19:42
girlfriend Hey listen to me dad listen to me hey you got you got one of those Rings uh the thing you take out for 10
1:19:49
days and you bring back I don't want it for 10 days I want it forever you know what I mean the 10 day ring do you have
1:19:55
one back there I love you B me that
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ring all right how much you want I take 10% it's
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$160 I only have a 90 take the ring outside and look at it in the dark or something you see oh that
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is so beautiful take the ring see the it's
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beautiful this has to have had some Stallone dialog tweaking as well right I
1:20:28
agree if this is the only scene you saw in the film and you're like oh okay we might have something here it's well done
1:20:34
as Sly plays between his fiance to be and the fiance Al Annie and Franny and
1:20:39
so he's in between these two girls he's looking at the ring he realizes how much it cost and how much it means to his soon to be fiance when they leave the
1:20:46
store with the ring the $14,000 ring on today's money I like a there's no paperwork
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exchange yeah B when size character comes back into there and says if listen
1:20:58
me this me that girl just walked out there so you ever show her $600 ring
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again you know what's going to be written on your Tombstone huh you know what's going to be written on your
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Tombstone I I was ding up the show Franny molico $1,600 ring you know I
1:21:17
mean yeah I thought that was funny yeah what do me fa why don't you go outside
1:21:22
run your teeth on the curb do me a favor would you very funny don't talk to her like that Stanley what do you think she's one of the boys on the corner
1:21:29
writing she's my best friend and she's going to be my ma of it's right
1:21:40
Stanley whoever whoever heard of made of V ring on a broom huh I want that ring Stanley
1:21:48
I got a ring for you f i got a ring for you around my B though
1:21:57
have that WR here best line in the movie so that's the sly humor I think that's your slyh humor that he brings
1:22:03
into the rocky character with the jokes I think we see some early indications of what he the humor that he likes to
1:22:09
basically the dad jokes really yeah every scene these girls were in they're the Dark Horse of the movie they're
1:22:14
quite good they play the New York talking girls quite well there might not have been too much acting going on here
1:22:20
too and that's no disrespect meant to anybody involved no sure yeah it's
1:22:25
probably pretty close to I mean to them in real life so they qu unquote by the ring he puts on a layway or whatever it
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is and he had to put down a deposit of uh $60 which again today's money I think it was like uh $8 or $900
1:22:39
deposit wow wow so I don't know how he's able to afford that but I guess he did cuz he walked out with the ring Jane has
1:22:45
given up on Cho completely has gone back to the high school dude who has another car now he's got two different cars he
1:22:51
goes back to the other High School dude from Lincoln Chico sees this gets totally pissed off he goes back to his
1:22:57
buddies and says we got to go beat this guy up Mr bch hey you you interested in a little entertainment man what kind of
1:23:04
entertainment like uh putting your fist through somebody's face man who face Anie LaVine that's who
1:23:10
man yeah about time for about about you you got to do it today yeah man I need
1:23:16
it right now man I need you where is he he's down the te going
1:23:22
you promised me am I missing anything all right no okay unfortunately not and
1:23:28
Franny's mad because Franny's like we just got engaged now you're going to go do some criminal activity like a physical assault and Stanley's like I
1:23:35
want to tell you something don't ever tell me what to do and don't ever tell me what not to do you understand
1:23:41
me do you and there's a whole sequence of them hard charging to I guess the high school where this guy is the four
1:23:48
guys are walking to the high school they're mad as hell they're going to beat up the guy that Jane went to when
1:23:54
Jane Jan doesn't want to be with Chico so essentially they're pissed off because Jane doesn't want to date Chico that's why is Stanley kind of like
1:24:02
leading the charge how about you just showed it Ryan yeah yeah whm be fallen
1:24:08
when he when they're walking down the hill and you can tell they're all trying not to laugh the actors aren't trying to laugh so they get to this high school
1:24:15
they got what's looks like the football team is practicing football the four Lords of Flatbush they walk through the
1:24:20
football practice and Stanley is just pissed as hell I'm not sure why he's so angry they get to the school and they
1:24:27
call out Jane's boyfriend from inside the school I need a be KCK your ass out
1:24:34
here hey you humo fairies dancing in there hey you guys coming up you hey
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this time you got to lose your balls for real get out here you
1:24:46
scumbag watch me I do come on I do you want
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[Music] you get
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out okay so we're going to think this is going to be a big fight it turns into a Monty pythonesque
1:25:11
let's see it Craig are you are you sorry I was just getting my was
1:25:18
getting all my tax stuff ready for uh when it's time to file taxes so buddy comes out and says who
1:25:24
wants me and she goes like I want you I'm going to beat the crap out of you so they start fighting but then the Lords
1:25:30
of flat push get involved too but then the football players get involved and some people are blocking the fight some people are helping the fight and then
1:25:37
the Lords of flat push realize wait a minute we've you know there's only four of us and we've taken on the whole high school so they realize we're outnumbered
1:25:44
you know literally 20 to one so they take off and this Monty Python has Chase to the woods and we're supposed to
1:25:50
believe it's real danger henway Winkler's character gets hit by a car
1:25:55
oh my God and he took a hit was that Winkler or do you think that was a thunt guy because his head's kind of turned
1:26:01
well if Winkler can jump a shark he can point I I completely blocked this
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whole scene out I forgot about this totally I thought again like okay we're gonna have a dramatic moment here uh
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but's gonna die yeah which would kind of um a tragic figure a tragic figure he
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was smart enough to do something and not be tied up in this gang life and the Gang life ends up getting him killed
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exactly but they do not go in that direction no he's given his little advice to Chico he you know we see him
1:26:34
in his room writing some notes or goals in his life that he wants to accomplish he's going to get out of this gang when high school's over and he gets killed in
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a car accident from a fight that he didn't initiate but then he didn't go there he just broke his he just broke his
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leg God damn it now we see all right pigeon CP let's
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do this okay so now we see a totally un I don't understand anything here so we now have Stanley literally inside of a
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pigeon Coupe and he's practicing his soon Tobe Rocky di dialogue with the
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animals you want to fly me home Birds pigeons you want to fly me home look you know if you eat your food you know what's going to happen to you you know
1:27:12
what's going to happen you're going to grow up to be a bald eagle you want to be a bald eagle huh or do you want to be a squirt what do you want to be huh oh
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wow I didn't yeah he I didn't really put that together yeah he's talking to the animals the birds if you eat your food
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you know what's going to happen you know you grow up to be a baled eagle or do you want to be a squirt oh man if I was
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paying attention at this point in the movie I might have picked up on those things this is the dialogue we're talking about he wrote this all this is
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his CU he uses the same dialogue when he talks to the birds in the pet shop his
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affinity for Animals yeah now he's given this early kind of Rocky esque type of
1:27:53
speech about you might be trapped like in lockup they might have you in this prison but you're not really in this
1:27:59
prison if you just imagine that you're out then you can be like the birds flying through the air and you're not
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it's his yeah say that again it's his
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it's lock yeah lock up it's his this whole place is his you know when you
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ain't around here like when you're out there screwing around your little motorcycle huh you know what I do you really want to know what I do I come up
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here I sit in my coup and I read you read man what do you read uh Maps what
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the hell of maps got to do with maps got a lot to do with a lot of things listen see I'll figure it this way the more
1:28:32
maps you read right the more you know about where you want to go like what I do is you pick a place okay any place in
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this whole stinky world you pick a place and I'll show you answer smart and all right Tokyo all right Tokyo good spot
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okay here's what we do first you got to pretend you're a pigeon now you look that way and you close your eyes okay
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now go on now pretend you're flying and you're flying and you're flying you're going farther and farther and farther
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and farther out now right here Chico you look down look down Chico do you see what's down there look what's down there
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Chico look look yeah man I see what's down there I see pigeon [ __ ] oh come on
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man listen to me you want to do it or not yeah come on now there is a scene
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coming up here where he's talking about being a bird and flying over
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Japan and he gets angry and he says you know what you see when you fly over
1:29:25
Japan and he says and I can't even repeat it I I won't and I'm going to play it for our
1:29:34
podcast listeners but I will edit the word because I again I won't have it on the feed but sze character refers to the
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Japanese a derogatory term that you would call Chinese
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people mhm and I'm going to play the dialogue and our audience will now hear it now you're pigeon okay all right now
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shut your eyes J come on watch me you're going and you're flying and you're flying you're going over the mountains you're going over the ocean and your
1:30:01
arms are getting tired and you're going farther and farther now right here Chico right here look down man look down do
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you see what's down there do you know what that means man
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you're in Tokyo man we're in Tokyo no man we're not in Tokyo we're on the roof we're on the roof man don't you see
1:30:20
we're not in Tokyo I'm in Tokyo yeah yeah oh what's it look like Stanley what's it smell like in
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Tokyo what's the matter Chico huh your bike broke what's the matter hey man that's the point now that's the whole
1:30:32
point man I got a bike I can go places man I can go places that's the whole thing that's the whole thing you see I
1:30:38
don't need a bike to go any place G the go places I mean man the really go places you got to have imagination I got
1:30:45
imag you can have all the imagination you want man you're never going to see no in Tokyo listen me I a think a lie I
1:30:51
know what I do and you don't know what I do if I say I've been to Tokyo I been a Tokyo nobody can tell me I'll tell you something else youo I don't like you
1:30:58
coming up here telling me what I can do and what I all but I'm going to tell you through you
1:31:03
man you're trying to make me feel B me [ __ ] man you got that any thoughts guys
1:31:09
on what's going on here after listening to that dialogue I have no idea what the what the hell he's talking about what
1:31:17
the maps the pigeons you know if you're a pigeon and you're flying over Tokyo like what is he talking about what is
1:31:23
this he's saying that when you have an imagination you're not really stuck in Flatbush he's in Tokyo but why he's so
1:31:30
angry about being in Tokyo and see yeah why why he's like yelling at him this
1:31:35
scene is an hour and 13 minutes too late I'm not going to start giving a [ __ ] about you Sly all right but we're
1:31:42
definitely seeing the early Sly moments here of yelling the yell acting that he does totally but it's forced though
1:31:49
because there there's nothing there's nothing there there's nothing there there's nothing between these two
1:31:54
characters that's really like that emotional where you can see like anger bubbling at the surface it's just forced
1:32:01
every all the acting in this movie is forced he's yelling at Chico as Chico leaves from the pigeon Coupe that he's
1:32:07
going to bury Chico Chico Chico I'm going to forget
1:32:13
that Chico Chico you know why do you you know why cuz if I don't forget that
1:32:18
y'all got to be a memory Chico y got to be a memory you hear me Chico y'all got to a memory you hear
1:32:28
me I I don't just let's get this over with he's yelling from the CP though he's inside the pigeon he put himself
1:32:33
back at the pigeon coup yeah well it's almost over guys thank
1:32:38
God so we got the wedding right is that where we got to close the chapter on Chico and Jane does it really close the
1:32:44
chapter I don't understand he basically tells Jane that he's a changed man that he's basically telling Jane I don't even
1:32:51
want to be your friend I don't care you made me realize that I want to be a better man for girls
1:32:57
and and it won't be with you and I want you understand that that I'm over you but I want to let you know that I've
1:33:02
changed and she doesn't want to hear so he just gets pissed off again and tells her to screw off we had something between
1:33:07
us was better than anything I'm sorry if I hurt you yeah I didn't say I got hurt
1:33:14
I'm not talking about getting hurt I don't care about that I don't care whether you're sorry I just want to tell you look CH just can't we be
1:33:21
friends can't we just be friends it's getting late fine so very
1:33:29
late come on let's ride home together so
1:33:35
immature look I like you a lot and we had a good time all right yeah I'm glad we had a good time do against his
1:33:43
intention was to tell her that he isn't the creep that she thinks he is but she
1:33:48
won't hear it so how is that closure on this well he he does the same [ __ ] that
1:33:56
he did earlier yeah we had a good time and and uh you know we should just be friends yeah they have an argument he
1:34:04
gets pissed off and walks away they did that three other times in this movie they are not compatible they're just not
1:34:10
compatible let's just move on that's it they just hate each other that's that's how that ends they just they both don't
1:34:15
understand each other and they yeah that's the end of them they just don't love each other they don't like each
1:34:21
other at all they should not be dating and now now we end with the wedding and my friends and listeners of the show The
1:34:27
Wedding is is ripped off from The Godfather totally totally ripped off
1:34:34
from the Goda the guy you're going to hear talk to Stanley size character is the father of
1:34:41
[Music] [Applause] Stanley I did it didn't
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it listen you got a nice little girl there be good to her I will
1:34:54
it's important but he's talking like he's a
1:35:01
an extra from The Godfather it's so stupid why do they make this sort this Italian mafia type feeling wedding I
1:35:08
don't know if you remember the the first DVD versions of the Rambo movies First
1:35:13
Blood and DVDs in the early days had really cheesy quote unquote special
1:35:19
features and one was an audio sort of history of Stallone they talked about
1:35:25
what a struggle it was for him as an actor starting out and they said it was so tough for him he couldn't even get a
1:35:32
he couldn't even get a role as an extra in The Godfather and and it was for that wedding scene but I don't know if either
1:35:37
one of you have access to that for got it here yeah Godfather moment this is an outtake from The Godfather wedding and
1:35:44
how after everything that happened in the movie is wimpy his best
1:35:50
man I know we're nowhere led to believe that they had that kind of relationship yeah not nowhere we haven't even seen
1:35:57
wimpy in an hour and a half I just want to wish you well both of you want you to
1:36:04
have a good life be happy
1:36:10
Sal so guys that ends the Lords of flapw uh thoughts I'm glad that we made it the
1:36:17
fans wanted this Craig just so you know listeners just so you know we put this vote out is this or for Death Race 2000
1:36:25
and by a landslide people wanted us to review the Lords of flat push are they doing it to
1:36:30
torture us yes I don't know I'd love to hear listener feedback on either Twitter or
1:36:37
Facebook you know about what made this movie coverage worthy for them well we
1:36:43
would have had to do it either way I'm glad it's over with now I covered most of the things that
1:36:49
pissed me off about it like the you know no closure on the Jane thing no closure on the buty Got Brains thing what the
1:36:55
hell was Wimpy's purpose no Chemistry Between this group of guys who were supposed to be best friends any of the
1:37:00
characters really the music sucks too much dead air and is Franny pregnant or
1:37:06
not none of that stuff why couldn't you do that in the first two minutes of our recording
1:37:12
and we could have had you know a nice day to spend with our our loved ones our loved ones I know what a waste of damn
1:37:18
time this is this movie is the biggest piece of garbage that I ever tried to watch watch and I will never watch it
1:37:25
again honestly this is one of the worst movies I've ever seen made almost $20 million at the box office with today's
1:37:31
inflation movie goers are stupid yeah it's a horrible movie it doesn't make sense these are the oldest teenagers in
1:37:38
movie history they have to be God I hated this movie Craig I think your your your view on it is
1:37:44
clear yeah I knew before we even sat down for this I mean I covered this on
1:37:49
the first episode of Sly cast so I've been there you got to do it
1:37:55
twice oh man and I've listened to that episode Craig but admit it's been a couple years so I like everything I
1:38:01
can't remember every I've ever heard but I might have to go back and listen to your thoughts on this and see how it
1:38:07
compares to today's viewing uh I love how at the end of this film we get we get a montage of the uh scenes from the
1:38:13
film that we just saw for an hour and 20 minutes like had we forgotten what happened yeah the Stills that's right by
1:38:18
this awful this terrible closing music and it's done out of order
1:38:27
it it's all over the place the the pictures of the film are from all over the place in the film uh can we just
1:38:34
just gracefully while we still have our dignity kind of just walk away from this one now okay so uh just a reminder I'm
1:38:42
Ryan from Going the Distance to Rocky series podcast if you're hearing me on the other feeds and again this is a
1:38:48
joint project that I do with Craig and Doug from their respective the podcast
1:38:54
is you can find us on YouTube at the Stallone podcast Network that's kind of like our Channel I guess you could say
1:38:59
but these feeds are go on all of our feeds anyways that channel generates some sort of traffic it's weird I don't
1:39:05
know why some videos have like 20,000 plus views some have like 50 some have 3
1:39:10
or 4,000 so it's a really odd Channel and the Assassins continues to grow it's
1:39:16
almost got 30,000 views people are so angry about
1:39:21
that the one guy tell tell us we should go screw each other uh in a in a
1:39:27
different language in Portuguese I had to translate it but it I to not be crash he used different words but he says that
1:39:33
we should eat each other
1:39:38
out I love it that's great edited by Stan stigle Stan stigle you are on the
1:39:44
hook for this bad editing job oh he's probably dead now good I'm sorry I'm
1:39:51
sorry I hope he I hope he died in a crash too all right well I'm bug from Rocky
1:39:57
minute by the way uh please don't use this as like our showcase episode this was tough to get through our stuff the
1:40:05
collaboration that we've done in the past is much better um but my podcast is Rocky minute uh I'm found on doj.com God
1:40:13
I'm exhausted yeah and Doug I look I look forward to uh sitting down with you guys for uh season 3 very very soon yeah
1:40:21
when am I coming on for that relax your now we we got a few a few weeks to
1:40:28
get to you Ryan relax you already had Matt Marsha on which when did you uh
1:40:34
what was his part what was his minute he had the opening he had the I had a tiger Montage oh nice okay I look forward to
1:40:41
that yeah all right guys as always it's a pleasure you bastards yeah all right
1:40:47
talk to you guys later byebye bye ah yesterday day we laughed and
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played life was just a game that had no
1:41:00
end and we would do it all again all the joy and all the pain CZ we had
1:41:10
friends and every day was something new we fell in love and didn't know quite
1:41:17
what to do and one day we'll feel like we never
1:41:24
have been here one day when we're traveling down
1:41:29
some dusty road are unfamiliar
1:41:34
Highway tomorrow we may go our separate
1:41:40
ways so all of us we drink a toast to you on this your wedding day
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oh