Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast

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okay all right full house today wow this is great okay uh well how do we start the show okay oh yeah
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welcome to one more round the rocky series podcast this is episode nine oh
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we just lost uh katie again where did she go what is going on katie come back obviously the man in
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quotations is trying to thwart our podcast and uh they've targeted katie katie are you back what's that what's
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happened to you what's i don't know it keeps like you guys keep not being able to hear me i feel like
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anyway i apologize i don't know what's going on okay it's not your fault at first they think it's the patriarchy trying to silence
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katie yeah that's fine it's well yeah it's mm-hmm
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okay nowadays we've got a couple of pieces of business before we get into our show discussion
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or movie discussion i'm really excited about today's episode because it's the first date classic scene
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i look forward to talking about that but katie you actually have an email and that individual dave is actually in our
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live discussion for the first time on discord so welcome dave and welcome to everybody hey dave there's a lot of
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people today hey guys um yeah this is a good episode for people to join too so
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well i think they're all here to see katie because you know well i mean let's be honest it's not
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they're not here to see kyle and ryan's face i'll tell you that much okay go ahead what's up email from dave he says i'm almost caught up after starting at
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the beginning of going the distance i was the first to join the discord server but haven't joined in yet because that
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would feel like starting a book in the middle i'm looking forward to joining in soon thank you guys for shortening my commute
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and putting a smile on my face dave schroeder oh thank you that's very nice
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so welcome to our chat there uh donald dave and everyone he's actually took an early lunch break he said in our chat
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here to watch us so wow awesome okay i do have something a little bit
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controversial and i don't even know if this person listens to our show uh if he does maybe i won't say his name i won't
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say his name because i don't want to call him out publicly on the podcast but if you follow the show on twitter go uh
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one more round the rocky series podcast on twitter you can see this exchange and i didn't get in much into it but i want
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to say uh i hope everyone had a good pride month did everyone have a good pride month it went fast oh it's over
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that's right yeah i only had gay sex five times it's the most i've ever done but it was fun no joke
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i didn't even make it to our parade this year and it was even a nice day but anyway well speaking of parades
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congratulations to your stanley cup champions yeah yeah i did i usually try to make it to
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at least one game but i didn't this season at all oh um tickets are pretty expensive because
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they're pretty good so yeah yeah finals yeah so good good job at the club right at 11 yay gay them then they had their
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parade in colorado of course june was pride month and we here at the one more round podcast we are
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uh supporters of the uh lgbtq how many letters there are
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plus plus after that of course we're supporters of them uh supporter of the movement we don't get political on the
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show or anything like that but i showed my support in the ryan silly way on twitter and on facebook by showing of
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course the rocky iii gif of rocky and apollo hugging in the water oh yeah in the water yeah yeah yeah
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so i just wrote happy pride month that's that was what i did they're bro man yeah of course they're bromance it's a beautiful thing right so i wrote happy
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pride month one just to show my support of pride month and also just be a little bit fun with it right the rocky apollo
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bromance so this individual goes please don't make rocky political that was the comment okay i'm like
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so i said we aren't but thank you for your concern also don't watch rocky part 4.
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then i got a response so here's the response and i didn't bother responding or blocking yeah but here here's the
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here's the person's response okay here's the response the response was you're attempting to associate rocky with the
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far left wing lgbtiq plus movement and implying that rocky iii had
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homosexual undertones which it does i'm not applying anything
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was that the end of the comment oh no he goes here part four had political elements but it wasn't glorifying
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homosexuality and gender dysphoria also the politics in part four is what
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sly actually wanted so i just like i bowed out i'm like i'm not yeah i'm i'm not engaged with this so if this
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individual listens to our show that's your right and as a military member i fight for everyone's right or will
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defend everyone's right to the freedom of speech uh you can feel what you want about anything as long as you don't cause
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physical harm to people or don't stop them from expressing what they feel but that being said i just like okay so are
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there uh sexual undertones in rocky iii absolutely look here's the funny thing i
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love it how straight guys will watch like wrestling or the rocky films and all we see are glistened
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oil down vaseline dripping masculine bodies on screen these people get so like uptight
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about homosexuality like dude you were watching some pretty sexy men on screen uh hug
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and everything else pretty much on in in the ring even say say there was no homosexual
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undertones or whatever to rocky iii we'll go with that are just hypothetically we're going to say that
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there was none it's a joke yes it's a joke people always say this don't
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bring politics into whatever what they're actually saying is
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don't bring politics i disagree with exactly whatever because if you said
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something that aligned with his politics then he would never say that he would never
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be like nope no politics we got to keep it pure like it's [ __ ] like this person does not like uh the lgbtq community at
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all obviously and then they feel offended that that you're bringing
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rocky this this sacred cow into it my message to this listener is uh [ __ ]
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yourself well said kyle also brian i just want to
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point out that by no means were you being political at all this person was politicizing it not you
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it was a joke truth also i will just say it sounds like he's like uber conservative and that's you can be
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whatever you want when we get to some of these scenes in the later movies i i want to get your your viewpoint because obviously as a
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woman a straight woman it is major eye candy for me obviously like
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you guys i'm sure i appreciate the sculpted nature of
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their physical appearance i would imagine absolutely that's actually one of the criticisms of
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rocky balboa the sixth film is that the opponent even though he's a real-life boxer and he can really kick
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it's not that movie physique villain is like a dragon figure or a cleverly or apollo of course even
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uh tommy gunn was a beast of a man right so anyways from what i've heard and what i've had or even experienced
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from the male perspective like say you're watching one of those movies or or just a rocky movie there there are
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some men who they'll watch that and in their mind they take the place of the male in that
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film they kind of imagine that is them and so that's how they can watch that
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where other men don't like that they can't do that they'll typically watch films with
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just women like it's either you're either voyeur or uh you're taking the place of that
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person i think to a degree with like the rocky things you could see like their physiques or
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whatever and you're not necessarily like sexually attracted to it but you may just enjoy seeing it because you
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you can almost fantasize that that's you there that you're doing this like you kind of live vicariously through that
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person makes sense i like this comment from louise louise he's he's great at bringing up past episodes from the old
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from the old days he goes one of the funniest episodes of the original podcast going the distance was when ryan rubin broke down how rocky and apollo
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wore less and less clothes throughout their training
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like it was like you have to wait till the end to get the payoff i think i remember something similar
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and then when they were that outfits at the end of rocky iii when they're having their little secret fight they are like listen down they're wearing these rock
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hard trunks i don't know what that was about it's like a protective thing bulge in
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those trucks like a ken doll hilarious
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i also want to say in the last recording of episode 8 i actually had colbit i didn't realize at the time
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and my voice is still recovering from it i have been coughing for the last 10 days
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so my throat is very itchy and i apologize my voice doesn't still quite sound up to snuff if you listen to episode 8 i
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don't sound that great i thought i didn't have covet but i tested right after we recorded i sent you that message katie i'm like oh i have coveted
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so i'm feeling fine i'd like i feel fine my energy is great and all that good stuff but my voice still isn't yeah so i
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got to meet the microphone and cough like every five seconds okay what we'll do is we'll start the movie so again if you're new to our discord we have a full
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house click on the watch stream that way you can see the movie as we talk about it of course we'll just start and we'll wait
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till kyle gets back but he'll just jump right in okay you ready what's your sister like to do ice cream
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adrian come on you letting the heat out who plays the bills around here if you could increase volume that'd be
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good otherwise it's fine yeah i don't know why the volume out to you guys is so quiet and i noticed that when i did
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the editing for the last episode uh it was quite as well over a couple things here so anyway so paulie says you know
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who pays the bills around here that's what that's a nice little revelation i assume they both do but i guess paulie
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maybe makes more money you talked about that kyle where the meat packing people might be yeah and then uh
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rocky actually asked paulie really quickly what does she like to do so he's about to take on a date and he says ice
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skating he does actually take that advice from paulie to take her ice skating at this point he didn't know
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what he's going to do with her and he literally says oh she likes ice skating so i'm going to take her ice skating yeah which we find out
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he has no abilities but she enjoys it she just can't do it
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yeah she didn't fall for the most part except that one time so we'll give her that in fact i would
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have a hard time ice skating the way she is the way she skated anyway
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for getting ahead of herself are we are we going into there i thought we were recording like the commercial and stuff i wondered too kyle
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like the trivia and stuff i wonder if we'll just maybe do that at the end oh yeah trivia
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okay nope trivia thank you okay everyone play it well yes right we've got everyone here okay yep
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sure i'm just getting uh i'm just getting my score sheet out so far we have rocco in our discord rocco is the
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of course the 12 year old young lad who created this book right here rocco that's so
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excellent that you've done that all right so here we go commercial break time here we go and action
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oh it's my turn
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how about em king oh he's too old and dull
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how about doug greenberg he's a good boy nah i don't feel heat from that name
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louise mozzo who is a good prospect exactly what are you looking for ryan this is what i'm looking for the rocky
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trivia book 300 questions from rocky to balboa
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rocco machetera never heard of him look it's the name man the rocky trivia book the listeners will
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eat it up now who created rocky an italian right what would be better than to feature one
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of his descendants as a teenager the conditions of your parole says you can't be around teenagers
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pro nothing i'll get it on amazon for the low price of seventy-five cents right balkan versus
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rocco mushadore sounds like a damn monster movie all right yay
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oh my god here we go so you everyone to play along at home we'll reveal the answers at the end here from rocco's book here we go
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question 11 what do the two banners that hang in the skating rink say oh another good timing
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today's date what do the two banners that hang in the skating rink say well i don't know exactly what they say but i
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think i know the the general so i'm just yeah i i think i have one
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uh i don't remember the other one this that we're getting in the hard questions that's tough to eat though
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i have absolutely no idea okay question 12. now remember everyone keep
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your answers to the very end no one write and discord your answers okay question 12 who says
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woman weaken legs okay all right we're feeling better about myself now question
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13 true or false mickey was in rocky's corner for the fight at the beginning of the movie
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so i guess against spider rico he doesn't want to say spider rico because that's an answer but we can say it now question 14 what
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did rocky say when jurgens first asked him to fight apollo creed right so we can kind of paraphrase that i don't know
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what the exact answer is of course because i haven't looked at the answers but you could say well i think it's like affirmative or negative type of thing
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okay and last question who works with adrian at the pet store all right awesome boy that first question i feel a
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little bit better with the other ones but uh we'll see what we'll do i for sure got it wrong because i have a
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question mark for the second one and the first one i'm pretty sure isn't right so did you get a half point if you get one
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of them right okay oh can we time out just for a second before you start it okay i think
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i mentioned this but the outfits here uh once upon a time probably like i don't
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know some years ago my boyfriend at the time and i went as rocky and adrian in these
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outfits for halloween very nice he sounds like a good fella so i have the glasses and
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nice and the hat and everything all right are you going to take those off for us later there katie
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or oh sorry you know what ryan i will not allow you to force her into a corner though like
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that how many sweaters how many sweaters do i should i have on hey kitty i always knew this i always
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knew you was pretty under the hat glasses don't tease me
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we'll get to that i think that's the next episode it won't be this one okay
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it's in there i don't want no turkey anyway but it was thanksgiving
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it was thanksgiving yeah to you but to me it's thursday right of course that classic line to me is
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thursday i've used that so much throughout my life about holidays whatever day of the week it is yeah anyone else yeah i don't think so but i
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find rocky's socialization here really weird he takes adrian on this date doesn't ask
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her what she wants she doesn't ask her what she wants to do anything like that just like yeah i
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don't want to do this and then she's like what's thanksgiving she brings up a concert he's like i don't care
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well i think she's saying that that they're leaving the house essentially like she's still kind of putting up a little bit of a fight i'm a little bit
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making it known that she's upset that it's thanksgiving and polly is making her go on the date i sort of took this
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as somebody correct me if i'm wrong but men wouldn't be like what do you want to do they'd plan an evening out or men
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would plan to date it just was what it was they weren't like hey what do you want to do i i never dated in the 70s me
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neither i just like assume that based on movies and tv and what people have said because it's
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changed so much even my parents will like ask about they still have an olden
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times dating i what dating was in the 70s because that's when they were dating i guess
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did you take you to the malt shop yeah like i'm like well that's not really how it works now like i took my
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first date to the zoo and then i yeah then i trapped her in the apartment we had coitus but uh
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do such a good job of showing the awkwardness of the two of you like you know who should go first
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no i think maybe we're just early or something like that you know i love that i think we're just early or
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something like that i love that i was going to say well the first time i showed my wife this movie it was
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disaster she like she did not like the rocky character at all oh no she was like why would he think that it's just
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it's early like this is so stupid hello i love it yeah it's thanksgiving
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night in the early but that's what how rocky thinks he it's not so much that we know that he's not punchy he just talks
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that way i think he's hopefully optimistic that's what it is it's not over yet i haven't investigated every angle here he knows it's close he
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recognizes that because he goes right away into uh financially mode with the with the owner operator here or the
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zomboti guy but we're going to see answers here one of our questions they'll be coming up so look for the answers as we watch this i got one right
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the one i guessed was right which is that the philadelphia blades nice okay i did not get the other one
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though no we're closed what i said we're closed yeah listen i'm
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gonna smooth this guy out here so just wait here for a few minutes i'll be right back okay we could go someplace okay it's okay hey listen are you close
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to the general public or you just closed everybody you know what i mean hey look it's after six o'clock it's thanksgiving
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that's why there's nobody here and besides you ain't supposed to be in here so do me a favor and i'll stay here
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huh i just love that so do me a favor and not stay here i love the the way this is written and of course slides we
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know wrote this and that's great way of writing like can you just do me a favor and not stay here instead of like guys go away it's closed it's just a better
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way of saying that so do me a favor and not stay here i just love the way that's said he's like are you close to the general
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public or just everybody i was gonna comment on the exact same thing kyle it's like how are those
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things different they're not that's what makes it fun yeah yeah it's interesting how rocky
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interacts with people the different mode season he'll be in collector mode or
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with gazo mode or but he can smooth talk a bit you can yeah he's not going to have to break this guy
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he's a terrible negotiator here before we get to that of course we know this rocky trivia might be in the book i'm
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not sure but here's some rocky trivia of course i think most fans know this but if you don't i either maybe katie's
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friend who listens to our show who's a newer fan to the franchise i guess what i'm saying but they were supposed to have 200 extras here at the scene this
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is a really amazing behind the scene uh moment they didn't have the budget the payload was extra so they didn't have
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200 extras so they kind of said well either we do 200 extras which we can't afford or
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nobody on the fly so sly on the fly had to rewrite the scene of how do we make
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this work where there's nobody here this is one of those moments where this film is we know this film is full of these
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moments we know that we're not saying anything revolutionary here but this is one of these moments where the lack of
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outside support or the lack of budget the gorilla style type of filming makes the film that lightning in the
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bottle let's pretend the studio gave them 1975 let's say they gave them you've got 70 million dollars we just
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believe in this movie so much whatever you guys need it wouldn't be the same it
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wouldn't be the same for like it's something aesthetically is better about the film because it was low budget and
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they had to make these creative choices that actually makes the film better so it just goes to show you the mud throwing money at problems doesn't
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always solve creativity you have to substitute with creativity you still have to have the creativity because if
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you don't have the good creativity your substitutions don't make sense they're stupid they take away from the film people can't
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suspend their disbelief but sly did an excellent job here doing a substitution that kind of makes
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sense the thanksgiving thing makes sense why this guy's here at six i don't know but i'm willing to let that go it was
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open during the day i that's my argument is because it is a holiday most businesses don't just close because the holiday because it's a good time to be
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open for the public the people that are off work so places like swimming pools or restaurants for sure they stay open
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because people are off work they want to go do something fun outside the home it's after six so they probably were open
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from 11 to four or something like that who knows and usually you close early in the holiday and then it's all your
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employees and stuff go home for dinner right like this guy should be at his house eating for him it's thursday too
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kyle yeah yeah there's a lot of us up there he's on his way he's just finishing up and then he's
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gonna head home and have dinner he says it's after six so maybe it's like 6 30 and he's you know dinner's at seven or
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whatnot and also ryan to your point about my friend kim who is clearly not a die hard fan so she did not know that i
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can guarantee last episode she texted me and she was like what
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were you guys doing she so did not get our bit the call with sly and the scene
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the adrian scene i was like oh my god you didn't and i so i explained it i'm like you can tell that you're not a
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die-hard fan because i guarantee every other listener got it i like
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did you do me that favor hey come on we're not operating look
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this girl here ain't feeling well you know doctors say she should go out and exercise once in a while and ice skating is probably the best thing you know what
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i mean yeah so what do you want from me well hey i want you to do me a favor you can see she ain't feeling too good so good
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and i love how he's he reiterates look at that dopey girl over there she
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looks sickly trying to edit they show her setting they're looking all pathetic terrible this has always kind of
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bothered me he totally throws her under the bus and i'm like come on rocky you like her i think he's right in the sense
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she probably isn't feeling super good right now emotionally in reality probably to cheer her up now he is
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playing a health angle which is [ __ ] i don't think he's as bad of a negotiator as he's portrayed to be here
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he's creating the sympathy story like he's kind of doing a con job in order to get her on the ice so this
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fellow here running the rink he has all the leverage rocky pretty much has to just agree to his terms true letter on
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the i said appreciate he only for a few minutes ten minutes ten bucks in books how about eight bucks
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come on it's thanksgiving all right nine bucks you gotta do you have the ice to yourself ten bucks
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give her the blades i love that give her the blades another way of saying okay uh where do you want us to grab the skates
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or just that clever writing give her the blades referring to the ice skates and people that know hawk yeah they're
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called blade great writing clever writing and yeah we talk about the bad negotiation but this guy's just not
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bending i think that's what it is i don't think that rocky himself is bad he's just this guy's not been like dude it's a holiday i want to go home give me
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the 10 bucks or we're not doing this at all he has 50 bucks from gazo so i don't
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know why he's why he's trying to negotiate down to your point is negotiating worked in that they allowed
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the men to skate yeah you got the skate for sure but apparently adrian likes to skate we'll see how well she does here
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again i've always wanted to see the deleted scene that doesn't exist of them going to the counter grabbing her shoe
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size i wonder what the whole conversation would have been like okay what size feet do you have in adrian's like i i don't know
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size six or seven hey i have a kid's eight or something like that
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i i'm guessing talia shire just didn't know how to ice skate i assume i could just see them being like okay we're
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doing the scene and she's like i don't know how to do this and they'll be like okay go ahead now i guess slimy they
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didn't have blade they like he can't ice skate at all can you imagine stallone ever ice skating so i would bet you
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dollars to donuts sly himself does not know how to skate he said that he doesn't know how to skate oh i'm kind
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of surprised because he's athletic seems like he'd be able to pick it up it's a different it's a skill yeah i
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could barely ice skate which for a canadian is shameful me too i can't escape very well i'm
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really bad at stopping effectively and stuff i can't play hockey my wife and i when we went on our date ice skating we
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both can skate but it's like you have to go slow and you're better than adrian but still i think it would have been
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really bad if you had sly suck at ice skating and her suck at ice skating it'd almost be kind of comical it should
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be hard you probably could get at work in some way but i don't know i think it was kind of neat the way they have it
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running here i agree you skating nah i ain't scared since i
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was 15. you know that's when i started fight i was 15. there's a nice little trivia there i
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don't think i've ever quite caught that he started fighting at 15. there you go it's partly what people catch because
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there are things that i'm like oh i've never caught that and you guys were like uh are you an idiot howdy but i've always thought i've always remembered
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this it's just funny what people pick up yeah what's your brain i can't you know yeah my brain just for some reason that
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age clicked i just never if you were to ask me 20 seconds ago what age did rocky start fighting i wouldn't have been able
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to tell you the exact age so there you go that's a good rocky question i don't know if it's in the book yeah it probably is well i want to comment here
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although stallone apparently can't skate i give him props jogging on the ice is
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probably more difficult than skating i wonder how many times he fell if at all doing this this scene skate's got bad
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for the ankles you know true you're pretty good skater
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you know like i always say before on the way over here you know fight used to be tossing me but no more you know
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see all i wanted to do out of fight was prove i was no bum that i had to stop to make a good pro i'm count oh oh thank
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you katie was that just one it was just one yeah recorded oh hey you know i ain't crying about it
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because i still fight i kind of do it like a hobby yeah i'll tell you what the trouble is you see i'm a southpaw it's a southpaw oh southpaw means you're
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left-handed and the southpaw throws your timing off his timing off or does it throw his opponent's timing off your
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timing is your timing whether you're left-handed or right-handed but it is awkward it can be awkward it depends on
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the fight it can be awkward fighting someone who's handed if you're left-handed or vice versa because your
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jabbing hand your forward hand is facing their forward hand your power hand both your power hands are far back from each
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other so it can be a little awkward your timing is like you have to punch it then counter punch if the jab's coming from a
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different place than you're used to you're not used to fighting fighters with the opposite hand it could be
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awkward a lot of fighters don't have a problem with it if you're in the pros like if you're someone like apollo creed you
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should be able to fight left-handed people no problem now he does explain where the paw came from i think the
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captain's here will help a little bit i'm gonna let's just play it out and he tries to explain i know it's not officially the reason but i want to hear
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rocky's reason as to why it's called southpaw we need to talk about the geography here yeah after that yeah okay
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guys it's always the time no he says yeah throws the other guy's timing off it makes them look awkward that's fair oh it makes them look awkward nobody
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wants to look awkward you know where southpaw came from nine minutes i'll tell you a long time ago there was
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this guy maybe a couple hundred years ago he was fighting in the uh he was fighting around i think he was around philadelphia and his arm he was
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left-handed his arm was facing towards new jersey you see and that's south so naturally they call him southpaw
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you see southpaw south jersey south camden southpaw you know what i mean now i know
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the characters had it still p-a-w paw isn't philadelphia p-a yeah yeah yeah
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philadelphia yeah pennsylvania so pennsylvania is the state of philadelphia but now is there any truth
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to this pa spells paw pa is the sound paw and i always wondered if it's like
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paw like like an animal but i wonder if it's a play on words both ways because a lot of boxing comes from philly and i
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don't know if there's any connection or just happens to be that okay dave so first of all my problem with rocky's explanation is that yes
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part of new jersey is south of philadelphia but most of it isn't now he does say
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south jersey south camden camden's the part of jersey that's just across the river from philly
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so boxers they move around the ring a lot his paw would be facing any given direction he could be facing to los
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angeles or it could be facing seattle or could be facing texas right this is the wikipedia explanation of the previous
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use of the term southpaw says the american heritage dictionary of the english language cites the conventional
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wisdom that the word southpaw originated from the practice of baseball arranging the diamond with the batter facing east
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toward the afternoon sun many claimed the term originated due to the orientation of baseball playing
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fields in order to keep the sun out of the player's eyes the resulting alignment of a left-handed pitcher's throwing arm causing the
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pitcher to have his left hand on the south side of his body term has been used for decades prior to that to
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indicate not usual well there you go i have heard that this explanation has
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been [ __ ] the whole time but it's interesting i wonder why they did that like that's just like another character
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yeah i don't know if he's trying to make a joke here if that's what it is too because he does like to tell funny stories and joe
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because he looks like he's like you get it you get it so i think he was trying to be clever with the name so he didn't
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really know but he's trying to tell a clever story about the orc of the name so he wasn't being like this is truly
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what happened i think he was trying to be clever about geography and south versus north and all that stuff it
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didn't land speaking of boxing puns i don't think it landed with adrian or the audi or the audiences of the movie
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no one has time to verify everything they hear right and i'm guilty of this myself have a bad habit of just
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repeating something they've heard from someone else as a fact sure so you could have heard something like this and then
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just repeated it as a fact the [ __ ] because how would she know anyway right well it's a good thing we live in a society where we have uh the truth is
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always said on media news and we we always repeat that yeah
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don't get this political ryan oh i'm sorry i apologize my apologies ugh
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i don't know things probably worked out for the best don't you think oh there's one of the answers philadelphia blades there's one of the answers
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the other one i had i don't want to say well it's coming up it's i totally forgot philadelphia blade so good job i think half points should count man
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that's a tough question rocco come on but here we go here's i think we'll see the other banner if we haven't already
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never got a chance though because you're left-handed huh well that's absolutely true you know this is a big moment here so we're kind
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of glossing over this rocky said that he never really got a chance to be a professional fighter
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or whatever because he's southpaw like what kyle was saying that shouldn't matter yes we know that if you're a good fighter you're a good fighter there's
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also other left-handed fighters that were champions or very close to it i'm sure in rocky's age group or during that
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time or before he mentions the box as a hobby we understand this we know it's his
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first date he doesn't want to tell adrian he's just another bum from the neighborhood so he's under selling
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his love of boxing and how much he's been trying he just first mentioned i'm doing this for 15 years
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but then he goes oh it's just a hobby you know not a big deal so he kind of like combined brags about his hobby that
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he doesn't really quote unquote care about but at the same time you know when you know you hear those athletes say oh i
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could have been a baseball player it wasn't for my bum knee that's kind of what he's doing here it's like no you just weren't good enough for the majors
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he doesn't want to admit it but he's saying oh it's because i'm left-handed nobody wants to fight me so i never got
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a really good chance so it's kind of sad because we know that he's sad about where he's at but he doesn't want to uh
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he's going to embarrass himself on a first date with adrian i will mention and i don't know if discrimination is the reason
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but there have been few especially at this up to this time very few left-handed heavyweight champions now
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granted people who are left-handed only are like 10 of the population and there was a guy
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uh interestingly michael moorer m-o-o-r-e-r he uh was the champion in the 90s he is
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right-handed he moved up from light heavyweight to heavyweight his trainer made him fight
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southpaw so he fought southpaw despite the fact he wasn't left-handed and he became champ
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and then he got knocked out by george foreman and when george foreman became champion again after all those years
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oh wow interesting though that he would change his fighting style to throw people off no trick that's no trick
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shortage of left-handers i don't know if it's because people don't want to fight left-handed people but well tony says it tony didn't want
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apollo to fight him because he's the southpaw yeah yeah yeah absolutely that's all great stuff it does line up so there's a degree of truth about rocky
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saying but we know at the same time it's not just because he's southpaw but yeah watch out
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so now he grabs adrian she's didn't look like she was really falling as much as he's pretending that she might be fine
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so i'm gonna a first date you shouldn't did i catch you she didn't dip or what i can't remember the example but remember
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he's talking about their first aid rocket too in that poem and then the other part here is a bit of
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a retcon here because if you watch rocky's expression there's no real but remember rocky balboa when he's
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reminiscing about the dates with adrian he says you know when i first touched her it was electric so this is the
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moment if you want to retcon this moment in this timeline right now with rocky when he first grabs adrian he's feeling
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electricity between their bodies right here i just dislocated my finger
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ah look at that oh no no no hey wait hey hey it ain't your fault look see look i
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had it it's all it's an old wound you see that look see nothing it bends like that see i
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originally done it like push the button bong works i love that bong it works i also want to point out that this guy
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keeps yelling at them every single minute of the 10 minutes he yells seven minutes as they're doing this now of
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course it's not real time i mean they can't do this whole scene for 10 minutes so we just have to assume that they've done you know they've gone around the
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ice chit-chatting we're just getting the highlights of their conversation i'm gonna show you seven minutes
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yeah i originally originally done i carry pictures of all my fights originally done in the baby crenshaw fight you see that big babies that
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decides an airplane i broke broke both hands on his face so that's that's cool that little picture there and it gets a
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picture of all of his fights that's not uncommon we do that with our facebook and instagram right we share everything so the thing that he carries pictures of
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his fights with him would that's pretty accurate it's a big part of his life instead of all his fights though ones that someone has taken a picture of
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maybe yeah yeah i take a picture of a lot of my fights or i like to get pictures of my fights
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something like that oh well that's a pretty nitpicky detail to be honest did he have his own personal photographer
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that follows him around that's the thing too though to appreciate like i think that's one thing we take for granted now
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is how easily you could videotape and photograph things even in the last 15 years
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let alone 1976 right what was his record he'd had um like 30 some fights so i
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mean his wallet would be pretty thick right didn't he have 30 50 oh okay he lost 20 fights and 130
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something oh yeah that's right yeah yeah on his face i lost that fight that's a
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nice picture don't you think see how it works there real nice
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come on you're having a good time i'll tell you you can see i ain't too graceful you know what i mean i don't
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move well but i'll tell you i can really swipe you know what i mean i can really hit hard this is interesting this is
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really kind of cool you know kyle you've mentioned this before how information that we get these early films translate to later films because
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he mentions two things that are very apparent in rocky iii with apollo's training you know he's not very graceful
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and we know that about rocky he doesn't dance in the ring very well he doesn't move in the ring very well but he can really swat he's got the hardest punch
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apollo mentions that you know why do you think i'm sitting here with you guys rocky has this incredible punch that just when you get hit by rocket when he
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finally connects it stings apollo creed the champion of the world got knocked out with it right and then he doesn't
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move very well so when he does that rematch in rocky iii of course that's the whole point of that training with rocky wasn't it it wasn't a hit harder
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it was to move gracefully in the ring i appreciate in the film sorry ryan i shouldn't have just transitioned like
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that i agree with you ryan as much as we criticize the harmony or lack thereof between films especially with the
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timeline i think what they make up for that in these films a lot of the concepts carrying forward
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to other films which makes you forgive the timeline stuff a bit easier since they're filming across decades
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essentially uh what i was going to say though what i found interesting like i appreciate they're using the film
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naturally to inform you about the character right they're naturally inserting facts to inform the audience
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of who rocky is and a bit of his background and stuff like that the only thing i find funny and uh katie i'll ask
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your perspective on this if you're on a date with a guy and he's talking about himself the whole
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time how would you feel like i feel like he hasn't asked adrian like a single
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question about herself at all he seems to be just focused on him i've noticed that watching this a lot thinking that
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it was odd also i'm sort of like trying to explain it away that he's just trying to fill
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silence because she's so shy but he could ask her questions you're right and
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he doesn't i think that's exactly what it is he's rocky's a talker rocky has been trying
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to get her let's say alone i'm not trying so creepy here but you know to get her on a date and have one-on-one time with her he finally gets to do it
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away from paulie away from an audience away from gloria so he's just kind of got this data dump he just wants to say
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everything at once because maybe in his mind he doesn't know it might have another chance so i'm going to say i'm going to be clever i'm going to be
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charming i'm going to be funny i'm going to tell stories about my life tell her my hobbies tell her my interests blah
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blah yeah yeah this is what rocky's doing it's it's been so long been a long time he now gets to finally like
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on her and she is quiet and she's allowing it but she's an audience she's a captive audience she's not ignoring him she's listening yeah i think she is
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a listener i think this is one way they're compatible because i think she prefers to listen usually i think this
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is bad form for dating if you're just talking about yourself the whole time like this however in this case adrian
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would probably be uncomfortable if you asked her too many questions you should probably feel like you're putting her on
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the spot and so this is probably one way they fit well together is he's a talker she's a
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listener she'll talk when she's ready to come out of her shell and until then
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he'll keep talking are you trying to tell me that he has gaps and she has gaps is that what you're trying to say ah
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yes i wonder if that will play out later in the film we'll find out but on the cell
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phone nobody wants to fight no southpaw you know what i mean huh yes rocky you've mentioned that
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you know i got started i love that little cause you know that slide that's not in the script like
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you like slide into right after that line rocky will make a sound of woo as he slides on the
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ice that was sly just having fun and i think they just kept it in the film he has incredible balance
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he is running on ice in hard sold shoes yeah there's no traction good point
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maybe he there's scenes where he wipes out the fact he can run and slide like that that's actually pretty impressive i
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have always thought this was strange like she doesn't do anything to like i mean she's she looks really pretty like
39:43
her face is really pretty but this outfit what is she thinking she's just like a big blob in this heavy coat and
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like 18 sweaters i think it was 70 sweaters is that a trivia question okay was it four was that the answer oh kyle
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yeah because what was it 20 sweaters no that's what i mean yeah what did he say what did he say i
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think he said like 20 sweaters i'm going with 17. we'll find out okay so i'm going to put down for me this is just
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for bragging rights 20 sweaters katie how many sweaters i think
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seventeen two so we got rocco in our chat still so rock let us know did you ask that question for the rocky trivia
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just let us know but nobody tell us the answers in discord because uh we'll find out later so the question here is you know why i started fighting so now rock
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is going back to his fighting of course he's obsessed with boxing finance who he is who you married adrian so this is who
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he is he's going back to fighting here ah no am i talking too loud
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three minutes my father he's uh oh man
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it was never too smart he says to me you weren't born much of a brain you know so uh you better start using your body
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right so i've become a fighter oh you know what i mean adrian or talia shire shuts stumbling a
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little bit on her skates again i think that's real because she kind of laughs as she tries to recover then rocky does
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say why you laughing but again i wonder was that written in the script the moment rocky finishes talking about his dad and
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you know you should be a fighter because you know you're not very smart so you should fight we all know that line and then rocky goes why are you laughing now
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did talia shire laugh or did adrian laugh i think adrian laughed it might
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have been exasperated because she may be slipped it almost looks like when he said that she kind of got excited and
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skated faster okay and you see the pace of her feet increase like that that kind of tickled
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her funny bone or maybe that's where she felt a connection to him they had a parent tell them something both very
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similar but but also opposite she's a professional actress ryan i think that it's adrian as well
41:42
fair enough i guess we'll never know true rocky goes why you laughing how are you left
41:50
my mother she said the opposite thing what did she say what you say the opposite now i love that
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line what did she say the opposite that is not proper english rocky what was the opposite thing she said now that's
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proper english but rocky asks the question what did she say the opposite i always get a kick out of that i think he meant to say what did
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she say question mark and then to clarify new thing the opposite well i think it's just like pointing out that
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people in natural conversation everything isn't always proper grammar you do make mistakes and you say things
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like that you jumble your sentences around and also it's a rockyism
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i love the rocky speaker i think we've mentioned that before the way saying things normally that we would say
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the character says it so differently uniquely it's it's got to be a sly thing because i don't think people philly
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speak this way it's got to be how he writes if i got the chance to talk to sly what would i ask him i think the
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question i'd ask him is is there someone in your life that you kind of based rocky on was there someone
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you knew who kind of spoke that way or kind of had rocky's personality or is that just kind of a phantom creation
42:56
good question we'll never speak to him he said you weren't born much of a body
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so you better develop your brain did she say that you time we have that opposite to track the
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gaps filling now what the mom was saying you're gonna have a hard time finding a man who's gonna find you attractive
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who's gonna take care of you financially so you better start developing your brain go to school get educated and take
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care of yourself no offense to adrian not only has she decided to be frumpy her whole life but she's not even going
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to school or anything she isn't developing her brain she's also kind of a bum from the neighborhood and i hate
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to say like that because she's such a sweetheart but she's not going anywhere she's similar to rocky in the sense that
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she is smart but like you said hasn't actually developed that talent
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into something some kind of accomplishment rocky is a good fighter naturally he has talent like he's not
43:47
too graceful and stuff but even mickey can see that he has real fighting talent
43:53
to be a good pro and adrian probably would have done well in university iraq would have done well in some sort of
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career but for whatever reason both her and rocky underachieved oh my god we're like the same you and me kyle i was
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thinking the same thing like neither of them are living up to their potential and exactly yeah well she does live up to a potential rocky three that's the
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hottest adrian was leah schar in the rocky 3 movie is she's just the most stunning even adrian even
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she never goes to school or nothing she just lives off of that rocky money once rocky made that money she didn't go to
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school or anything you know it was a mother too was a mother to robert i've heard you and a number of other people say that adrian's hot in rocky iii
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if she just wore nicer clothes i think she's like stunningly beautiful in this
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movie the first two movies sure we know she's dressed down a little bit because that's her character yeah her face is
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great she looks great later in the film especially when she comes out of her shell depends what your preferences are like i like really dark hair and her
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hair is lighter in rocky 3 so i don't like her as much in that film but i don't know it's all subjective yeah all
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right let us know in the comments let's objectify adrian what
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what is she the hottest i object it by rocky i can tell you when he's the hottest you know so it's the same but
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you're allowed to because you're a woman but if men objectify a woman and then we're terrible it's so stupid i want to
45:13
point out an interesting detail that i didn't notice before so you see this guy by the dr pepper machine which i find
45:19
weird to begin with that you have a machine like dr pepper is kind of a secondary soda usually it's a coke or pepsi machine anyway that's not the
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thing i wanted to talk about you see on the door there's a thing for sharpening regular and custom two dollars three
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dollars hello it says no hockey players i can't read that because i'm blind but that is a
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funny observation because they fight do you think or we may be the first podcast to mention
45:45
at the very least that that sign good catch kyle says no hockey games i've never seen that before there's also a
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sign when they walk in it says spectators two dollars even if you don't skate you have to pay hmm two dollars
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back then would be like probably nine or ten dollars now i'm gonna pay my money a lot of money just to watch people skate
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it is a lot of money when people skate yeah can i ask you a question absolutely absolutely
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why do you wanna fight because i can't sing a dance
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ah i love that classic line classic line that's a big step for her yeah she's warming up also
46:21
this is like a little off topic whenever he does the heyo it reminds me of another famous italian actor in a
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tv show do you guys know who i'm referring to another character oh are you talking about welcome back hotter no
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a little later a little later in time i don't know why but i'm thinking steve buscemi he's safe when he danza and
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who's the boss that's right i heard the rebooting that with tony danza and alyssa milano i
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like they're picking up later oh i hope judith light's going to be in it
46:54
is she i haven't heard about her but this is like hot off the press yeah welcome to who's the boss podcast let's
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do that for our next i know also he's another super hot italian who was a boxer it all comes back and who's the
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boss he was a boxer like they show in boxing but he was a baseball player like a retired baseball player his name is
47:12
sally oh okay good i like it i like it dates almost over here so rocky says don't fall don't fall as he grabs her
47:17
again maybe this is where he also felt electric too you just yeah i think this is actually the electric part okay and did he say that he faked that fall like
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she pretended to fall or something i swear he said that later on he did in the poem he said
47:29
where you pretended to fall so that i don't know that i could catch you that's right so i could catch you
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that was terrific i'm pretty good at this you like the way i skate you know the last fight i had i had with this guy
47:41
named spider rico he busted my head up there you see that scar i tell you
47:46
things get pretty rough in the ring things get pretty rough in the ring what a great first date dude i don't think there's anything to change i mean it is
47:53
a perfectly filmed acted dialogue we get background about parents
47:59
we get ages of when he started to fight it's an amazing sequence of events and information there's a lot that happens
48:05
here the way he negotiates the way agent comes out of her shell i mean there's just so much what do you guys think
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there is it's a classic scene i like the scene to me though now as i've grown up
48:16
there's a lot of cringe in it too especially at the end there he said i'm pretty good at this and
48:21
he's like i get my hood busted up and stuff like i just go like don't say that
48:27
there are a lot of things that i try and excuse because of the time period and
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who these people are but also i feel like it's maybe the most iconic date scene in a movie ever is there
48:38
another one well maybe in pretty woman when they fly to believe for pizza
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when harry met sally when she fakes orgasm in the diner true yeah
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this one's up there i think it's one of the most iconic date scenes ever so yeah it's there was a deleted scene actually
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uh in the rocky film where adrian she faked her orgasm that first night okay
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okay here we go rocky trivia answers are you guys ready here we go number 11 boy rocco he
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came out swinging with that one okay i'll give you the answer and i'll tell you what i wrote and you tell me judges you let me know if i should get a point
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okay so the question was what do the two banners that hang in the skating rink say it says plan a skating party group
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rates available public skating daily joe capades skating school whoa
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as a judge i'm going to tell you right now what you're allowed to put to get a point okay you just have to have the
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skating school part that's what i wrote i wrote skating classes yeah joke of aids part maybe and all that other [ __ ]
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with the group rates well you know go easy on rocco he's just a 12 year old kid there
49:46
sorry so you got skating school or something like that right i roll skating classes
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i got philadelphia blades which is the other one i got the other one right i believe i got gaps you got gaps in your
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answers together we fill gaps officially you didn't come up with the answer that he had but i think we got confused by
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the question where the advertisement was two banners and that's what he was saying there was two banners together
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that he was referring to the two separate banners is too therefore i think that you should each get i think
50:20
rocco would allow it to well here let's ask him if he if he'll he'll he just left the discord check out yeah
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i think he left the chair he was just there and you shadow over him and now he left the chat oh boy
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i think you each get a half a point no we'll do one point i think at one point each is fair i think it's fair i'm gonna
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put mine is wrong you sure yeah i didn't get them both and i didn't get the intended one that he had there i think i
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could argue that my philadelphia blade should give me partial credit but i'm okay taking that on this one you'll
50:49
take that okay so who says woman weaken legs by the way did anybody in our discord
50:54
get i'm curious if anyone discord got number 11. i actually would let us know okay number 13. true or false mickey was in
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rocky's corner for the fight at the beginning the movie of course that is false he had that other guy that was like wanna give me some advice please um
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yeah [Laughter] 14 what did rocky say when jurgens first
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asked him to fight apollo creed and the answer no no yeah and then lastly who works with
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adrian at the pet store gloria okay okay ryan you got five out of five i guess
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huh i got five out of five with that one yes i did okay nicely done
51:32
what did you get i got four yeah i also got four okay ryan you have 14
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i also have 14 and katie you have 12. so i don't know i don't know why i'm
51:43
laughing oh i know well men are smarter than a woman that's all we know about um are we ending this
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year yeah we're ending this here so what's the bump count okay one bomb this episode there's going to be two more coming up in this scene
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that's why i was going to ask we're up to 12 bombs so far
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hey did anybody put if they got the banners correct in the oh uh no one actually answered their answer other
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things um okay yeah they're saying we should have got bonus points for him niger but no i just want to say again if you're listening to this on itunes or
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wherever it is that you listen to our podcast send us an email check out the show description what that email is i always forget i think it's one more
52:20
round rocky podcast the show description will show you the email address follow us on twitter facebook all that
52:27
good stuff uh of course we're part of the last of the action heroes podcast network i'm terrible for not plugging that i guess the reason why i never plug
52:33
it is because i freaking run the network and i just feel like i'm the one that shouldn't have to plug it but check us out on the network there's a lot of
52:39
great shows on there uh tim one of the hosts from the round 14 podcast he's
52:44
actually hung out the whole episode today in our discord so thank you so much tim tim and tony run that part time
52:49
they do a great job it is good they're very good they're down to earth guys their banter is really cool and they
52:55
just they have a really good rapport with themselves in the audience we're a little bit more uh irreverent than they
53:00
are now one of them i apologize for maybe this is where you're going is this the show where it's very clear one of
53:06
them is canadian tim yeah where where is he from in canada ontario i believe uh
53:12
tim is actually a fan of the edmonton oilers i believe as well so nice and child really perked up at that time
53:19
he was mad at katie's team for knocking out the edmonton orders uh yeah i know what the katie thought we were friends i
53:26
don't know i mean uh tim and tony's show i just want to say the round 14 that their instagram
53:31
account so they have around 14 instagram account sly like the official sly
53:36
instagram account run by sly and i do have a good authority and this is to uh show tim and tony some love here i do
53:42
have a good authority from uh somebody i talked to outside the podcast the slide does run his account because you know
53:47
how some celebrities don't yeah they have people that handle their accounts i would assume somebody might handle sly's
53:53
video editing before it goes live or whatever and stuff like that however when sly writes on instagram it's sly
53:59
writing so sly follows tim and tony's round 14 podcast so the official sly
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account i'm happy for tim and tony but this is where i search the sting after a while i'm not going to lie to you i know
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[Music] you know you guys that he uses or he his team he's only on instagram they use
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software to push it out to the other social channels you would never see your twitter stuff are you on instagram yeah
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the show's on instagram and what it's fine of course i would love it and i've gotten close in the sense of i talked to
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people that have them on speed dial and i've got a couple questions that were thrown so i know sliding knows about the podcast like he knows it's just
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uh congratulations tim and tony i'm really happy for you [Laughter] you're basically paulie on the couch
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when he finds out rocky's making the fight and he's all depressed with his beers no it's in rocky iii when rocky's
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rising the montage and they panned to paulie somehow he's angry for like
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drinking his his four roses i'll get a pinball machine
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tim says thanks guys thank you give us a shout out no problem hey don't thank us for the shout out you got the slide shadow
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donald says that uh sly's ducking me like clubber lange louise says sly has permanently placed
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me on skid row and uh simon says ryan you've wasted our time sir
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you can't podcast no i love it no i don't mean to teach you you smeal mainly
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you're the man you're the heart and soul of the podcast stop it there's a weird small part of me that almost hopes he never does because
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then it kills the bit and then it's like oh all right it's kind of fun to always be the outside guy who never gets the
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love from the man himself but anyways we'll see your fantasies can't come true because inevitably you'll be
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disappointed by them that's true yeah maybe sly's nervous to talk to me because i'm going to ask the tough
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questions you're a really good interviewer so you would do a great job you would do an excellent job
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interviewing slo okay all right now you guys okay all right go back to teasing me now i don't like these compliments okay all right thank you so much
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everyone for joining us if you haven't already join our discord today was an amazing full house i think we had up to 10 people in our chat that's a lot and
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we really appreciate that it's a lot of fun it adds to the fun and then you have to wait for the edits you get to see all the crap that i edit out good or bad the
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jokes that don't land but i try to make myself look better than katie and kyle so anyways
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i think the episode's over in here no belle [Music]
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yes
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you