Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast

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[Music] it's another side that like wants to take more wants to go that one more round
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because i go in the womb around when you don't think you can
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because it makes all the difference in your life you know what i mean
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[Music]
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well welcome to another episode of one more round the rocky series podcast i'm your host ryan
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and with me today of course is kyle and katie kyle how you doing i'm doing great
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i'm on vacation nice very nice
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weren't you just on vacation i was either making me do it if so much pto well yeah our corporate
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year end is july 31 and i have activated vacation days and then you have to take them yeah i get i
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have leave that i have to take every year as well like 25 days annual but you have to take it's like an order oh i
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wish we had that i work for a canadian company so right mine's not bad but
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and katie how are you doing i'm doing great hello soiree for rambo
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and balboa yesterday they're like three year adopt a bursary
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oh nice yeah well happy father's day to all of you it is father's day isn't it i'm sorry i should have wished you guys
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a happy father's day what the [ __ ] okay i know any fun plans with the rugrats today
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just normal parenting it really it's funny never i'm sure kyle could attest it kind of just it is what it is we will we'll do what
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we do but i got the hugs from the kids and a card from the daughter and that she made it that's all that you know i'm
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good you know i don't need anything crazy just normal day we'll go for a walk and spend some time together but
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yeah yuko yeah similar i got a gift from my daughter today i got a card she ate
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at school and i love that stuff yeah i keep it all that stuff because i know i'm an old man i'll love to look back at
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that stuff absolutely i remember a day when my daughter wanted to be around me yeah you know
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total loser and she'll come back around it should come
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back actually we're just packing we're going to vancouver uh tomorrow so we're kind of just
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gonna be packing and being busy we're not there for long we're just there for a few days and we have no emails to read
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which is just fine but if you do want to send us an email we'd love to hear from you the email address is one more round
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rockypodcast gmail.com uh just check our show description as well to see the
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email address but before we get into the show we've got our trivia you ready to write down your answers yeah all right
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and kyle you've got the score sheet yes i do are we doing another five questions yes
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all right you ready i'm ready true or false bill conte composed all the rocky movies
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number seven and i say number seven because we're doing there's 50 questions so that's for the first rocky film
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number seven what color were rocky's boxing trunks on the banner so love's played so far child's oh yeah look at
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you yeah exactly oh boy i'm gonna be terrible i think i got that one what is the name of the girl that rocky walks
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home we talked about that last episode [ __ ] [Laughter]
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that's all i remember now i remember her [ __ ] that hung out at the hoagie
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shop oh this one's tough what is rocky's address the number of his house
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oh okay i think i know it i put an answer down here but i look right not the ones that almost add up to nine no
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this is his rocky one address yeah i think i might have it wow 75 sure on
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this but 25 is a good chance of it going south so what is the name of the fighter
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that rocky was fighting at the beginning of the movie there you go okay there's a couple tough ones for me there i'm not gonna lie to you so thank you this is
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we're drawing these questions from the rocky trivia book from rocco
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mascara sorry i'm saying his name wrong he's listener of our show and his dad also is
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a listener of our show it's a 12 year old rocco put this book together okay we'll reveal the answers at the end of
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the episode all right well some interesting news mike kunda he's somebody i interviewed at the very
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beginning going the distance almost six years ago now of course he's the uh film tour guide for the yo rocky
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film tour in philadelphia he's the rock impersonator as they say or so when he does the rocky film tour he's in the
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likeness of the rocky character and made a very successful life doing that and of course he's garnered the attention over
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the years from sly and sly has actually met kunda a few times of course on the
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movie the pretender and i also interviewed the director of the pretender jim toscana
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so i've known mike for years he's guested on my show and i've interviewed him and i'm very happy for him i've
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never met him in real life but he's very popular obviously in the rocky community and rightfully so
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and he started a podcast and it's uh youtube i think it's youtube not only but they primarily show their stuff on
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youtube but i think they release the audio on itunes as well but it's called the rocky files it of course is very
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successful my understanding well first off sly plugged
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kunda's show or his podcast on sly's instagram so that's a huge
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huge honor and a huge bump right so sly actually on instagram said hey check out these guys
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they're great podcasts and they've only been doing it for like maybe half a year not even and i've been
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doing mine for you know six years and you know when you're ghosted from
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sly you know 500 times it starts to sting after a while you know and i'm happy for
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everyone's success i look i wish sly would go on everyone's podcast that's rocky or ramble related i wish he would
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plug everyone that does an honest effort of his uh of his stuff right his movies and his uh
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i was a little bit stung you know not happy for mike but i feel a little bit deflated because i've been doing this
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for six years and i just haven't gotten a boo not even to mention nothing nothing from the man himself and it
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stings after a while so i called up derek wayne johnson who i've had on my show for
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four years and i i harassed him i harassed i said dude you got to give me you got to give me sly's number because
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this is it i have no choice i'm going to call sly directly and i'm going to ask him hey you know what's going on here
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and i recorded the phone call i'm going to play the phone call now i don't know tell me what you guys think
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hey sly i know you don't know me but my name is ryan and i run a uh a podcast called going the distance
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and one more round and i don't know if you've ever heard of me but i've been podcasting
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here for six years and for six years you've been ghosted me and i wanna know how come
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you don't wanna know good i wanna know how come you want the welcome i wanna know how
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okay i'm gonna tell you you want the talent to become a good youtuber instead of that he became a nobody on
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some cheap second-rate podcast it's a hobby a waste of life
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so there it is there's the phone call he hung up on me i guess i can say i got to talk to sly wasn't the best conversation
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i could have ever hoped for but at least he knows who i am now and uh but i tell you i'm still feeling pretty
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down ryan yeah you all right
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yeah i'm fine why'd you start a podcast six years ago
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i just gotta do what i gotta do you don't have to do anything no kati i do and i gotta leave this
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place too so where are you going well they said they're going to let me podcast in philly and i just want to be
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somewhere where i ain't going to think about nothing except him ryan give it some time don't do this a
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lot of people live with hurt a lot of people don't have a choice katie i do and for that
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you're willing to lose everything katie this isn't everything the podcast the facebook pages and all the socials
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we got that ain't everything there's a lot more than this katie before there were reasons to podcast i could
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understand but i don't understand this even if you get a sly shout out what have you won kund is still number one
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why can't you change your podcast theme everybody else does because i'm a sly themed podcaster
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that's how i'm made katie that's who you co-host with we can't change what we are
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yes you can we can't change anything katie all we can do is just go with what we are
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you can't go with what you are you've read the social media comments it's podcasting suicide you've seen him you
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know how popular kunda is you can't win oh katie
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katie always tells the truth no maybe i can't be a successful podcaster maybe the only thing i can do
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is just keep recording episodes i don't know i don't know all right so with that yes we'll
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continue recording new episodes so here we go we're going to continue with coverage of rocky the first film
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and this sequence here we the last thing we left off was of course apollo telling dragons it's very smart
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and now we're going to see the scene here of gaza rocky and goggles driver meeting up for uh some more bookkeeping
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information wow what is it i just want to check this thing out you know you said pick up two yards from schneider
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and grandpa foley right no no no no two yards from capali and a grand from schneiderlin here we go
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yeah i got it got it how's this girl you're going out with tomorrow night
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oh junior oh you know don't you think i had things a lot of canaries flying around the docks i'm going over policies
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what [Music]
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all right so first off we got three bums there kyle you want to like track that right those three bums
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there oh thank you ryan i can't wait because you're so caught up in the moment
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yeah rocky's got his feather in his cap here right yeah yeah there's a few things to talk about here we've got
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rocky's featheriness cap have any of you noticed that before now that you're looking at it i noticed that while i was
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watching that's kind of weird i've never noticed it before and i want to say i went on reddit i
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posted this question on reddit and i also posted this question on twitter and i will say there was always a couple
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people i've always noticed that like i i doubt that but that's fine honestly
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90 of the people that actually responded who took the time to respond said they never noticed the feather in rocky's cap
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there i don't know if it's that i didn't notice the feather i just didn't notice that it was different
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it was just rocky's hat okay yeah i may be recognized there was a feather there and it didn't occur to me
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then that the original one doesn't because if you were to ask me two episodes ago recording whatever it
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was before i saw the scene for the you know for the podcast review if you said hey does rocky have a feather not a
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feather in his cap i'd be like well no there's no there's no bird feather in his cat i would have said there wasn't one my brain would have been there's
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nothing there now i know our brain just knows what they notice but i found it interesting that the majority like i said the majority of
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people that responded on facebook twitter and read it said they never noticed the feather before but of course cico noticed it they're you know it's
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always those people it's always people like seco that remembers yeah of course yeah yeah yeah yeah that duh you know what else i
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didn't notice the reason that buddy's upset in gaza's explanation is that he's he's in a bad
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mood because of his prostate i've never noticed that before oh that is something i've noticed maybe is someone with the
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prostate i could be like yeah i never noticed that either katie that it's his prostate
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relax relax buddy's in a bad mood this is prostate yeah you realize that
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i thought it was cute how rough gets a big smirk on his face when he's telling gazo about who he's going out with like
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when gaza was like so who's this girl you going out with it's kind of it's cute it's that cute little smirk before
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buddy ruins it it is interesting that of course buddy says you know i hear she's mentally challenged a little quick
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reminder here i had speaking of derek wayne johnson a good friend of mine in real life and uh well online social
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media real life like we talk all the time actually and i became i've become friends with them like i legit have like phone call
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conversations with them it's pretty fun oh that's awesome yeah no it's cool oh yeah so i had derek the only time
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i've ever directly asked derek for any kind of
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favor because i don't ever use derek for that derrick literally works with sly has worked with sly and has sly on speed
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diet like sly calls derrick all the time for stuff you're like it's me yeah i mean anyways i gosh about derek all the
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time anyways so the only time i first said derek he just did me one favor one favorite he just asked sly when he
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wrote rocky two why did he propose to adrian at the zoo especially after the scene we just heard
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here so he did he did it for me and sly responded sly's response to that question was he'd forgotten about this
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piece of dialogue when he wrote rocky ii that the reason why they picked the zoo at the time they just like the snow and the zoo combination of the tiger walking
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around and he made no connection which i it still blows my mind that he could write this dialogue act in this film write the
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rocky 2 film it just didn't even connect the uh the zoo and the uh
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the comment about her mental state or that no one told him yeah hey remember
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the last movie we did the [ __ ] in the zoo thing greek kyle it is weird in editing or
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production they didn't yeah i think that people probably did notice it and either
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were two but he he wasn't like the super ego's tripped sly at that point no so he
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they either like didn't feel comfortable saying it or maybe they did and he opted to keep it in anyway he yeah but he he
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told derek he never made the connection i know but you're right you're right maybe he did in 1979 but then in 20 whatever was 2020
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when he was asked the question he'd forgotten the conversations back at 79 but fair enough fair enough so buddy's
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upset because of his prostate but he's in a bad mood well he's always in a bed but you only
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ought to count your blessings buddy you're still a healthy person you know that i don't like your face i don't like your z
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i'm on your shoulders relax relax yes
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i love that relax relax my ears oh my god this is so like the daddy having to like separate
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the kids for fighting over stupid [ __ ] as like five-year-olds i feel like buddy is the 1970s
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equivalent of most internet commenters basically he's like a reddit user or
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youtube commenter he's just a troll i don't like your face with this
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comeback now they didn't show them the captions there but i think keep rocky says uh put your shoulders out or
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something like that what does that mean i never understood that piece of dialogue did you catch that doesn't come up in the captions funny enough just
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listen again i know so let me just go back just a second listen to what rocky says i think he's when he says kiss my
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ass i think rocky's character says put your shoulders out or something oh i thought he said come out and show me
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okay let's listen again of course you know that i don't like that i don't like
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like come out and show me that or something like that oh maybe either way if i took it to me and come fight me
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like a real man now you know what happened here in the script gosel steps out of the car
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at this point and he says okay you guys need to work this out i'm tired of this so the same relax relax my ears to both these but in the original screenplay he
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gets out of the car and says you guys need to square away and finish this rocky gets in the car and beats the crap out of buddy and smashes his face into
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the steering wheel that would be nice if we got to fill in there he would have taken away a little bit of
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rocky's tenderness and and stuff so i think that's why i was taking out a slice said it just it it just didn't fit
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the mood of the film wow he's right he's right it would have been more like a godfather type moment yeah he is what do
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you drive me crazy both he is but he doesn't like yeah some guys they just hate for no reason
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yeah that's a true principle in life though some people just don't like you for any
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reason believe it or not there's people that don't like me and i'm sure there's people that don't like you guys in your life that you've got but it's weird how
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some people just they find a reason just not to like you so cause is right some people just like
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for no reason capiche yeah your criteria of what you like and what you don't like is different between
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different people and also some people are just poorly adjusted people in their their negativity is a reflection of
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their their own state of mind body is probably a deeply unhappy person and he takes that out on rocky like he's
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basically a bully it's a form of lashing out guys like buddy just really pissed me
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off though like i don't have much pain for them i agree and the older i get kyle the other i get as i near
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47 in october nearing like the last part of my career in the military i have less and less patience for a-holes like i
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just i just don't care anymore i'm tired of you being the way you are and i don't have to put up with it anymore i know i
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wish i figured this out earlier but the older i get i don't have time for people that are jerks and i'm tired of cow toying to
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them exactly yeah like that's your problem not mine yep agreed gives rocky
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50 bucks for adrian and rocky to have a good time i think we worked this out before is that like 200 bucks today i'm
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just looking up now that's similar to what he won fighting spyder rico
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right this is 1975. 50 bucks would be
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271. that is not bad you could go on a pretty nice date for 271 dollars i don't think
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i've ever spent most of it yeah he does he only supposed to he only spends 10 bucks for the ice rink yeah so 50 bucks
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has 200 yeah 250 buck 270 buck date night that's a that's a decent meal and
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yeah for sure you have a nice time yeah thanks
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how did you know your name don't think i had things yeah
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what i don't know what i call it what'd you tell me
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i find it interesting that gospel didn't know adrian's name or i mean why sorry why rocky thought that was
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impressive enough how do you know her name because we know that paulie has been begging to work with gossip so i i
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just thought gazzo was pretty involved in rocky's life because he went to his wedding and rocky too so i just thought it was i don't
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know i didn't think it would be that much of a mystery to know who it seemed like rocky assumed he knew who adrian
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was like but he referred to adrian as paulie's sister that's true yeah this is like a a fairly tight-knit communities
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all he's known gaza is known adrian's so shy and never talks to anyone she's
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probably referred to as polly's sister by the way they had to work it in that you don't
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think i hear things again a lot of canaries a lot of canaries i love that i
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was the master of networking like that guy in the age of like no social media a finger on the pulse of
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what's happening like you know rocky doesn't break the guy's thumb he knows if rocky's going on dates of people like
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plus i would make an excellent stalker [Laughter] yeah these are the days before social
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media and what have you so yeah i guess you didn't know everyone's names sure so our next scene here is i think this
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takes place the same day when i said oh no it's very smart because it's the same people in the office it's dark out now so it's night time so they've been
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planning all day how to find a boxer right and so they're looking through what i guess are some books with boxers
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names and their stats and what-have-you and where they're located and i find this interesting these books
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were made because how often would they have to recreate the books to show the stats yearly i guess or
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this is insane like in fact that i i think this is just a convenient plot point or something i don't know if such
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a thing exists okay i could see maybe it's like a binder or something or something right a binder might have been
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better but you're right look how thick these books are so you would have to assume that's all full of boxers names and
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stats and how up-to-date is that yeah all right guys we're about halfway through the episode i think it's time for commercial break is the read receipt
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confirmed definitely steve harvey has absolutely no interest in hosting a rocky themed trivia episode
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on our podcast of course you can cancel the trivia indefinitely if you're set on uh having
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harvey hey it ain't just steve harvey what about all the time ryan has invested
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i believe we can find a solution solution nothing you better find me another trivia host and i mean in a
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flash kyle don't play games with ryan he's the founder of the podcast he's already spent hundreds of dollars on hosting
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fees made contractual obligations with the last of the action heroes podcast at work
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is not going to be embarrassed contacted by nblx manager she's hosting jeopardy that same week the gibby levar
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burton hell he's ranked fifth i've gotten a hold of every worthwhile contender and they all tell me the same
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thing your podcast doesn't have enough subscribers why the hell would i go on there ah subscribers nothing man they're
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afraid hey no the legit rocky fans listen to this podcast and none of them have a prayer of whooping me they're
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making excuses so they don't have to be the chump that gets whipped in front of the whole civilized world all i can say
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is that i'm a mediocre podcast host i don't know what the hell else to do
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i do if this podcast can't get a legitimate trivia host what it's going to need is a novelty
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this is the internet right so ryan or balkan in 2022 will give a random internet listener an opportunity
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a snow white underdog and i'm going to put his work on the podcast right here
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with me and i'll tell you why because i'm desperate and there's a lot of people are just as desperate as me and there's
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nothing more they'd like to see than ryan or balkan give one of our listeners a shot at the greatest rocky themed
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podcast in the world on a pre-recorded podcast episode i like it it's very
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creative no kyle it's very little effort [Laughter]
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so apollo secretary offers them more coffee which i think indicates they've been up all night they're going through
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this uh long process to find the perfect fight or the perfect name the perfect angle some more see apollo's ties loose his
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top button's undone his sleeves are rolled up the lawyer is drinking jergens is booze
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that he has on the desk and we've got apollo's bodyguard watching the door you'll notice a wharf mr wharf there i
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love how michael doran who plays wharf in star trek is actually head of security on star trek and he's had a security here for apollo you just feel
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secure with michael doran around us i want to show apollo creed's so-called alpha male
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status here i'd like to point out sure in jurgen's office paulo creed is in
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jurgen's chair and jurgens is pacing around his own office
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while jurgens's secretary is catering to him your goods basically just got
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cuckolded essentially you're right kyle that is jurgen secretary in his office
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yeah the creed's taken over this promotion [ __ ] he's running the show now jerkins is just a prop at this point
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that's funny thank you what do you think about billy smell wow
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i'm not the big chuck smith yeah he's too old and dull bobby judge he's a good boy and i don't
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feel need them joe zach's a good prospect he says joe zach's a good prospect this
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is my theory i haven't looked this up but i think that's stallone's father-in-law or someone who's related
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because stallone is married to i think it's sasha sasha zach c
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z a k i think sly when he wrote this inserted
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that name like maybe joseph brother-in-law or a father-in-law or someone like that in rocky three
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rocky actually fights joseck you'll see on the marquee of people he's fighting and joe's acts there so he does
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eventually fight him i like that kind of level of detail that's something yeah i think it's gen most listeners
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wouldn't notice great that's a great catch or a great connection yeah i forgot about that name good job exactly what are you looking
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for this is what i'm looking for the italian stella
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rocky balboa never heard of him look it's the name man
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the italian stallion the medial eat it up now who discovered america
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what would be better than to get it on with one of its descendants it's a southpaw
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i don't want you messing around with southpaws man you do everything bad sounds fun nothing i've dropped them in three now lovely says southpaw nothing
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i'll drop him in three now he's right to think that he can take on any amateur he's the champion of the
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world he's the best fighter that ever existed in this universe he's right to be like whatever he'd be like a top nba
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player worried about some college kid like it to him it's nothing but i love like says three why not two you know i
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love i love the idea that he actually that it might even take three rounds i don't think he thinks it would take
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three rounds i think he's saying i'll let it go for three rounds i'll carry him three rounds okay i think for most
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amateur fighters in rocky's position or even rocky himself had rocky never trained with mickey and say just did his
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own thing i think he would have got dropped in three like the rocky who fought spider rico who couldn't fight at
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all that guy would get crushed by apollo creed smoking and drinking and eating donuts
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yeah this is kind of a call back to muhammad ali too because obviously the apollo character is based on him
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muhammad ali was really well known for predicting the number of rounds a fight would go he even has like a poem he's
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like if he starts talking drive we'll drop him in five oh cute definitely but like and then people
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were saying that the fights were set because ali was always dropping people when he said he would the more likely
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explanation is is ali would carry a person to a certain point and then drop them to make his prediction come true
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paul's saying i'll let it go to three but then we'll end the charade okay yeah okay
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i love his intonation the way that apollo this is like the third or fourth time he said southpaw nothing he uses
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that intonation a lot also do you guys know anyone who pronounces italian as
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italian yes my my mother-in-law and other
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so my wife's family i could say this because none of them listen all like farmer kind of like redneck backgrounds
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well that's not insulting and and they say italians interesting oh okay
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yeah i find like older people say it that way oh well it's 70s yeah i just i always found
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it interesting how he pronounces it yeah i think he's doing it though katie i think i know what you're saying i think the way he's doing is kind of i would
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say well sort of mocking but he's not taking it seriously the italian stanley yeah yeah yeah apollo creed
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it's the italian staff sounds like a damn monster movie we
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should start account for the most amazing one-liners from apollo creed be too many of my favorites be too many
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that's one of my favorites no it is great yeah fan monster movie there's actually a twitter account it's kind of
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funny there's a twitter account called the paul creed or something like that the joke of his account or her account i
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don't know the gender the person that made the account but anyways the joke of the account is they'll comment every
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comment everything they say is it sounds like a damn monster movie
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that's kind of funny it is kind of funny but that's that's the the joke of the account every comment it sounds like a
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damn monster movie so anyways so now we got rocky talking to paulie here they're walking the streets tonight there's kids
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in the background playing stickball and rocky's like i used to be deadly at stickball it's interesting because this
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is investigated or reinvestigated again of course in rocky 2 when he's playing stickball with those kids outside
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i love that i love that continuity as bad as the continuity errors are in
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these films there are actually a lot of things like that like josek or i'll say at the zoo
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even if it's unintentional or the stickball thing which goes from movie to movie
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the way some of these people talk like for instance creed is always calling people chumps you'll hear them call
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rocky a chump in the ring when they finally fight but you hear say talk like that in other films too like it's pretty
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good consistency in that way i agree and i think that helps us forgive some of the other errors one of the other things
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on that same vein the way that people are referred to only paulie calls rocky rocco
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only apollo calls them stallion only certain people call them those nicknames
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i never thought about that but that's totally true i love how they're consistent with the stickball
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cannon but they can't get the the sun's ages right in each film yeah
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to be deadly you sure your sister knows i'm coming right you're very excited maybe swollen hands yeah
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the joints from walking and carrying meat in and out of freezing uh plays hell on the joint maybe i ought to see a
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doctor what do you think i don't need a doctor i need a different job different job what kind of turkey so
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paulie's measure course that his hands are all swollen and and the joints are stiff because of working with the frozen
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meat bert young playing the royal poly he actually put i think what he put on his hands like gasoline or some sort of
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liquid legit on his hands to give himself stiff joints you guys hear about that yeah yeah yeah yeah but i love his
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way of saying you know i need a different job so here he is again bugging rocky to work for gazelle daddy
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rocky understands uh yeah a different job what kind of turkey big small so rocky though he's a little bit punchy
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he's actually knows what paulie's doing here he doesn't want to talk about gaza oh yeah if i'm rocky i'd be like two things you know what
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else makes your joints hurt being a boxer and being a mob enforcer hey my joints probably hurt more than
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yours do and b this new job you want is not going to make your joints any better like beating
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people up cannot be great on your hand joints either right it just makes no sense anyway paulie it wants to give up
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a union probably a good paying union job benefit security to work on a cash basis
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where rocky's living hand-to-mouth in that shitty apartment ollie's gonna do that with a house i guess
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a good point that's a pretty high chance of landing you in jail when you get an assault charge for breaking someone's
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thumb right it shows kind of paulie's not really thinking that through very well i'm like hey paulie wear gloves
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your hands are yoda adapt man adapt the meat packing
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something i learned too joe frazier who is uh when he moved to philadelphia as a young
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man he actually worked hauling meat oh me packing it so they kind of i don't know if they
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intentionally borrowed that i don't know if that was known to fly once i wrote that but it just so happens that packing
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meat there is a big deal yeah interesting big turkey oh there is a good man
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nothing bothers me i make a correct collector busting bones don't bother me a big turkey right
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huh hey castle's got to give him forget guys that's a bad joke you know what i mean you got a match get imagine go to
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him for me yeah yeah now last time i had a turkey it was when they're having a two dollar
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special horn in our dogs about three years ago let's give me the turtles
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last year me the turtles had spam what do you think i never caught that before
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where he talked about last year with the turtles did you guys yeah yeah never did oh bad for him spam
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is disgusting i don't mind spam honestly if you put spam on a frying pan with some eggs i
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don't know it's yeah if you fry spam it's okay yeah but yeah you have to eat it hotter cooked on a pan
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so we see a little cut scene here too of rocky's looking at the hoagie shop and there on the corner is marie with all
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the boys again and so that conversation didn't hold there's a couple more girls there too for on the right hand side
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one's a girl once a guy's long hair i think the one by frozen foods the dark hair
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that's a girl yep i'm pretty sure the next one over that's a girl it looks by the way she's standing oh
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maybe i yeah i think it's a girl there's four guys and little marie it's less of a
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sausage fest than it was back when little marie was on the corner there and she was the only girl
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so they got a few more [ __ ] there that's good yeah exactly exactly they're recruiting and they're
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doing well now i've note here uh rocky's smoking
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which i always find interesting that he smokes the cigarette was twirled at the end he saw that it looked like almost like a joint and sly said that he
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he wants to make it clear that he wasn't smoking a joint or the character or himself his hands were cold so he would
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keep his hands warm by twirling the paper at the end of the cigarette okay oh i just assumed they were like
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homemade cigarettes or something in that case but yeah yeah i wonder what the story of sly quitting
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smoking is or the rocky character putting smoking because i don't see a rocky character smoke in any of the
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other films other than rocky five when he starts again he starts again yeah back to the beginning
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he has like a smoke and then you don't see him smoke ever again after that in rocky balboa he doesn't smoke later on
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in rocky five he doesn't smoke i think he smokes when he's depressed i think that's what we're led to believe
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when he's down into drags he's a smoker but when he's rich and rich and popular he doesn't and he's a lean mean fighting
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machine he can't be smoking also i'm curious why you think it's interesting that he does smoke ryan why did you find
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that interesting it's just i think what kyle was saying too we don't see very often so when you think of all the films combined just to
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go back and watch it again you just forget that's what his character did at the beginning so it's just a reminder oh yeah he was like that at the beginning
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but he isn't like that for the rest of the films per se so like even the creed films right
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sister knows i'm coming for sure right she's very excited
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so those kids are tripping iraqi again when they walk by they even like come come out of the
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doorway and like kind of start following them and they don't give them any mind well yeah i think for those guys you
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know you want to impress those girls and you wanna you're kind of banking on those guys ignoring you and walking away
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yeah i don't think you can convince yourself that you're somehow intimidating rocky balboa
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uh in folly those two would tune that group of kids up very easily
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um oh no hey we forget about gazzo huh don't ask nobody twice
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i don't ask nobody twice that's all he's done is like a hundred times but not twice right more than twice more
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than twice yeah for sure and i love we got a little bit of a sip of their slice singing like sly
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stop you can't sing leave it to frank i i think it's cute also
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i really dig his outfit his sweater game is on point in this movie i love it so
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much he's dressed up a little bit for agent he wants a little bit you must look a little nice for adrien he's not wearing sneaker
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like he's wearing like hard sold shoes yep he's dressed up a little bit well i don't think he ever wears sneakers
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hey your sister you show your sister yeah yeah yeah she's very upset now rocky has every right to think hi
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like she has been really shy and cold with me all this time but now she's excited knows i'm coming this is odd
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okay all right because this kind of came out of the blue but paulie of course is doing this he knows how much rocky wants
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to be with his sister and he's trying to get a favor out of him so i'll give you a date with my sister if you set me up with gaza i find it
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surprising too that they live in this house not that surprising i guess but it's like it's a much nicer
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neighborhood in place than where rocky lives yeah it doesn't look too bad on the outside there's no real damage or
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anything or well it's the same neighborhood it's just a duplex
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yeah well i think for philly that's pretty common though yeah everything's row houses and stuff yeah no i i didn't
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mean that that was bad i just like i sort of assumed that it was like their parents house yes i was going to say
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that i think they inherited that house yeah good calling trust polly to like pay a mortgage and to be a productive
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member of society he just drinks all his money yeah it might be paid off and that's how they
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can kind of yeah afford to not really work work or i mean me packing factory pet store wages covers the mortgage
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because there's no mortgage a unionized meat packing job would pay well okay like i know a guy who in the
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80s his first job out of high school was at a meat packing plant for a kid out of
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high school at the time he made like 15 bucks an hour in the 80s that's pretty good now we're asking you know people
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are like oh 15 an hour like fair wage or whatever but in the 80s 15 bucks an hour would be like 40 bucks now yeah 30 to 35
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for sure now i love this because yeah she's very
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excited you're coming but you get that hint right away because they walk in the house the lights are off it doesn't look very inviting for guests yeah why are
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the lights off she's clearly cooking dinner you're right the lights should be on kind of many ways but you could argue
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too that maybe she's just been working in the kitchen that side of the house and when night set on she never turned on living room lights but yeah maybe
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yeah you're like go to the hospital
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10 minutes late how are you doing oh poor rocky yo how are you doing he's i love her right away she's
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feeling self-conscious about how she looks as she steps out of the kitchen she touches her apron and she's like oh
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what is going on here we know that adrian likes rocky too because why would she care about how she looks right at
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that moment if it was just another one of paulie's bum friends or whatever and here we have a picture of bert young and a naval
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uniform and i can't remember i think i'm 90 sure this was taken from a film still
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this is actually him in the film it's not very young in the navy per se that it was still from the film so let
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me know in either email or comments or whatever if i'm wrong about that is this supposed to be
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ollie when he was younger or is this supposed to be paulie's dad i think it's probably when he was younger yeah so i
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just think we're allowed to believe that paulie did some service you know back in korea maybe or something okay probably
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was born when in this film right here he actually is 35 36 year old both the actor and the character because both
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adrian and paul sorry both adrian and rocky are 30. so i think but then again
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it would have been like 1950 so whatever was happening in like 1950 korean war
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there maybe wasn't a war maybe it wasn't a war he was just in the navy yeah that's true yeah it didn't
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have to be an actual you're right because i'm in the navy i'm not a war with anybody yeah he was just the service but didn't actually fight a war
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but now i'm confused where he was too young for korea but too old for vietnam yeah yeah that nice
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sweet spell yeah and then paulie says here i told you she's very excited but adrian gave no indication that she's excited whatsoever
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you know how pissed i'd be if i were either rocky or adrienne it's embarrassing for adrian it's it's
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thanksgiving like it's a big deal for her and rocky asked him like three times are you sure i don't want to come across
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as this overbearing jerk and uh thanks a lot paulie screwed
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us both yeah yeah you ruined my chances and i don't know if he's anything like me i hate making people uncomfortable i
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hate i hate imposing on people if i'm invited to someone's house wouldn't show up really early when
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they're still getting ready and stuff like that and they're like you know what i mean like to me that's like super rude i'd feel horrible about that i'll sit in
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my car for a half hour if i haven't yeah she's very excited
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[Music] you look at me i'm not ready for this
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you make that's a very tiny comment would it make a difference if you were
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is he saying that she can't doll herself up any better than she looks now i think what he's saying is even if i told you
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you were to get ready would it be did you really be ready are you ever going to be ready on your own i took that both
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the physical and the mental but yeah but i think i also think he meant it physically i could be wrong i took it the way that kyle took it but that
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doesn't mean that we're right you're right about the uh mental part of like you know are you gonna be anymore right now rocky's about to put his hat on
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again here is that so is he thinking to leave maybe yeah yeah i think so you're out
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here in the kitchen and i want you out right now
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i want you out of here instead oh so good i love that like
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i lost my train of thought i had a comment but the instamatically lost me oh why is he saying he's gonna take him
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out nobody thinks anyone's going out rocky came there for thanksgiving dinner yeah it's very confusing
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so why not just have dinner there i don't understand why he's like get out i
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think he wants them to spend time just the two of them thanksgiving is a poor choice for that yeah
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because paulie's too in his mind i think he's like these two are never going to get together
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on their own they have too many issues it would have happened by now if it was going to happen so i'm going to make
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this happen so i basically have to trick both of them into being in this situation
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and the thanksgiving was the trick now i'm going to kick you out and you guys could both go out which is absurd like
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nothing would be open of course oh i might be able to go for like chinese food or something it's true
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i'm sick of seeing you hanging around here like a freaking spider i love that i don't know why but i think
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that's actually a good analogy it is [Applause]
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i'm tired of you being a loser it's such a weird relationship one minute he's saying go out and live your life enjoy your life
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and you know tired of you just being a stay-at-home single woman spinster don't
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be a loser i think he cares for adrian but at the same time he has a real terrible way of trying to enliven her
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life for sure leave me alone let me just be drunk
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right i don't want you nagging me he could literally just say i don't want you to be a spinster so why does he have
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to call her a loser of course rocky's still here and he's it's very uncomfortable of course like they're fighting in front of him and
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he's like oh what do i do i
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so we got a little bit of exposition there uh the tv's on rocky's watching it where it says that paul's in town
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they're looking for an alternative due to the injury of the other opponents there's a little bit of film exposition now rocky's aware of this too love it
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great way to naturally put it in there like that was very well done so again adrian asks why didn't you tell
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me you're bringing them home
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she's not drunk he is that's funny now paulie is able to open the door on
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adrian poorer adrian she's on her head's down she's a little bit afraid it's thanksgiving i got a turkey in the
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oven oh
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oh it's pretty bad i mean we like my wife she's an incredible cook and i know how hard she works on these meals especially a special meal and if i just
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took a turkey that she made i would be i would be out in the alley she would kick the crap out of me
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it's very you know when people make food obviously it's uh paulie that's a real dick move throwing that bird on the
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alley seems to have no empathy whatsoever he does not understand how
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other people feel so he's associated he is really stunted he's well-meaning in one sense but like
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he does not get how other people feel whatsoever he probably can't manage his own
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emotions which is probably why he drinks so much if i were rocky i would feel
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immense guilt right now i would feel like i'm causing this that my presence here is causing this conflict and that
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this bird got thrown out because of me even though really paulie's the [ __ ] he set up the whole thing but i just
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that's how i would feel in that moment i think you've basically diagnosed paulie
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right now yeah very good job um the other thing about the meal thing ryan that you made me think about is i
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think that for not well-off people particularly in this type of neighborhood in the 70s
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it's not like they had turkey all that like this was like a once a year thing and it probably was
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this was kind of an extravagant meal for them i just thought it was strange even the financial aspect of him like
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throwing away a turkey which probably i actually have no idea how much turkeys cost but i think it's a big deal or at
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least it was in the 70s well rocky said the last time he had a turkey was when they were two dollars a turkey
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so i don't know how expensive they would have been but still i mean he didn't have a turkey last year he had spam so i guess just so that was
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like a turkey meal he went to a place that it was like a meal oh i see oh my apologies okay it makes more sense okay
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yeah it's it's really wasteful on his part and wasted a bunch of money and her
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time and respecting her party wants to just rinse that bird off you know i mean
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put it back in well i love how polly he keeps a piece he keeps a piece of it to eat on a drumstick or something fully
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cooked he'll probably get salmonella poisoning or whatever you're hungry rock
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get out of here
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you're hungry rock the office him the leg are you hungry rock yo paul listen then we just better
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forget all this you know let's be good we got nothing good tell her something's funny ain't
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nothing to talk about she's in a bad mood i'm in a bad mood you want to go out with my sister
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i love how he's pushing rocky with how paulie keeps he's pushing him with his fingers a
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great acting by bert young there he does a poking gesture go go talk to her say something funny but he's being kind and
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encouraging almost it's weird it is weird that he's able to turn that on and off yeah he's it seems genuine
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like oh go be funny go say something funny you're good with those funny things rocky said i don't know what to say to paul will say again say something
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funny look funny just be funny and rocky does this little mini shadow
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box yeah you know because he's psyching himself out for the the conversation with adrian this is
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of course a very cute moment we'll play through where rocky talks through the door at adrian and i know our viewers at
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home can't see this of course but they all know the scene but watch sly's acting is really great watch his i don't know kind of look on his face i know i
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feel stupid kind of looks like he'll do that when he looks at paulie
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rocky you know i don't know
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before
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probably knows everything about it i know i know about this sort of stuff he's the perfect matchmaker
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it's rocky again i know you ain't too happy at this moment you know oh could you do me a favor you know
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ain't got nobody spent thanksgiving was you know so uh how about maybe you and i and then we'll
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go out together get something neat i don't know maybe laugh a little bit who knows you know would you like to uh
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i don't know would you like to maybe uh you know you want me to go out together what do you think would you like to i'm gonna have a good time
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what i love is she was getting dressed and ready during that whole conversation i think she looks gorgeous yeah
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she really does but look at her face too it's very determined like i'm going to do this and maybe in a
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weird way she's listening to paulie not because how he said it was the right or best way
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but maybe it's like you know what i think i will go live my life outside of this house outside of maybe i will go
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take a chance on this guy who's been courting me or trying to court me i don't want to be around my brother right now i'm really pissed off at him so in a
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weird way his method paulie's methods of getting her kind of angry and determined to get out
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of the house it might have worked like i'm going to go out with rocky fine what's she going to do with paulie tonight right makes the environment so intolerable
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it's like an abusive romantic relationship in that way too like if you want to make sure the person doesn't
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come back you have to be mean to them so that they hate you also i thought it was strange that paulie he could have at
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least pretended to like go in the kitchen and drink his beer and eat his chicken leg instead of
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being an audience member and making rocky so uncomfortable watching him great
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didn't get any of it yeah that was weird thanks for the bird yeah i don't know maybe thanks for the
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offer i don't know it's kind of weird line paulie's got a headache so he's going to turn off the tv and we're going
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to edit it soon here so adrian now just looks at herself in the mirror again i think to steal herself as they say to get herself ready for this
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one-on-one date with rocky i just love how well put together she is she has add-on and that nice coat you
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know she didn't hang out on that the atomic hokey shop no that was gloria was the other 12 year old
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[Laughter] oh man a great sequence of events boy
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the movie as we know is starting to really pick up here uh regarding that's ever been slow but now we're starting to see these relationships come to fruition
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now the first date with uh rocky and adrian will be the next episode but that's a very exciting moment of course and yeah this is a
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great episode guys a lot had a lot of news i got to talk to sly on the phone i think i probably burnt that bridge now
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with sly i'm sorry about that sly if you can forgive me i hope you'll reach out and talk to me oh yeah answers to the rocky trivia are we ready so before you
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do that i just want to let our audience know that the bum count is now at 11. wow i'm well on my way
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214 to go katie okay okay all right what was my what was my guess
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your guess was 36. oof that's high too boy mine's 56. i'm not looking too good
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either em king [Music]
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yeah okay so here we go the answers to the trivia you ready okay so the question
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was true or false bill conti composed all other rocky films the answer of course
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is false vince to cola composed rocky iv if you haven't already check out my interviews with vince nicole and bill
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conte on going the distance podcast i interviewed both composers we've all got that right i'm sure okay now number
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seven the answer here is sorry the question was what color were rocky's boxing trunks on the banner now now the
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answer is red and white banner on the banner trunks with the white stripe that's right
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now that he just wrote the answer red and white which i guess if you just got red and white you can that's allowed but
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you're right it's red with the white and the uh the color was wrong with to what rocky wore in the ring and we'll
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talk about the scene when we get to it why that's uh an interesting scene number eight what is the name of the little girl
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that rocky walks home of course little marie number nine yeah i got this one wrong what is rocky's address kyle what
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did you get i got 18 18. that's what i put good job guys i said 16-12
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is it 18-18 both of you got it right okay good job guys good job i totally
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forgot the numbers i just had no idea so i said 16-12 or something like that number 10 what is the name of the
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fighter that rocky was fighting to begin the movie of course spider rico kyle i got four out of five i want to tally
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that up yeah katie you got all five yeah did nice trying to make up for last time
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so right now i have ten brian you have nine and katie you have
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eight there you go okay uh louise and our discord chad said he got 16 13. so
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he got four out of five it's funny i said 16 12. isn't that weird we both said that's weird i wonder i wonder if
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that's what the rocky two houses i wonder if some can yeah these almost add up to nine i think they do add up to nine if i remember
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yes so funny anyways okay thank you so much uh rocco uh make sure everyone if you want to buy
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his book the rocky trippy book on your local amazon even if it's but don't cheat if you buy it but play along with
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us on on the uh on the episodes all right there we go that's the end of the episode
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i didn't hear nobel [Music]
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[Music] i just wanna say one thing [Music]
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[Laughter] [Music]