Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast

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all right welcome everyone it's regular hug it's good as do our fans know that
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we're that we're going live well I don't know if it's gonna work yet we'll find out this is what we're gonna find out so stand by for that but at the very least
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we're recording it looks like it went out live right opening me trampling all over you hey we're used to that so welcome to the Stallone podcast network
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this is where three podcasts host of their own respective Stallone or rocky podcasts come together to talk about a
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movie that is neither a rocky film or a Rambo film so we're picking his other films from his illustrious career
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service personals Lester's career that we want to talk about and today we are talking about Get Carter but before we begin talking about Get Carter I want to
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read a couple of reviews from our YouTube channel so there's good news bad news guys the good news is our YouTube channel is growing we've got a 833 subs so that's all right
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the bad news is for some reason people are very angry at our Channel they think that we should be a free streaming
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service for Sylvester Stallone films it is illegal so I don't know how we would be able to sustain that or make money
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off that or whatever it is nothing we're making any money anyways but yeah well people don't care about that when they're looking to watch assassins at
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3:00 in the morning there's ways to get free movies out there there's ways to do it and when they stumble on our channel to get angry if we get angry that
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there's a podcast that reviews movies they seem to be foreign to the idea I don't know so here's some of reviews I'll be pg-13 about it I had to
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translate this one from Spanish but basically call this effing dogs and we should F dogs while radit and that was her latest one that was Rodrigo pro best
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of Rolla another one that said a lot of them are different language somebody called this fokin [ __ ] nothin was
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head FAC a fact you FAC fact you best back some of them just gave the middle finger we got a wide variety of reviews but
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some of them were legitimately like you guys are good and what-have-you and like I said the subs are going up people are subscribing to this free streaming
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service of think of movies so today we're gonna stream Get Carter for you guys how does that sound when you hear reviews like this you you
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kind of look inward and maybe maybe we're doing something wrong oh yeah but no the only thing I can think of is if
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they see the title of the episode it says assassins maybe they're gonna expect to see assassins but what if we put like review after the title it
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definitely says something to the fact that we're covering the movie that we're covering yeah that really doesn't say
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like assassins HD rip yeah yeah yeah somebody said clickbait they actually accused one of our videos Ben quickly
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because I showed the thumbnail of the movie that we're reviewing if that's clickbait and the title actually says grudge match movie review I don't know
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what else we have to say but anyways if this is the Get Carter movie review and let's uh let's get going get Carter came out in 2000 as we always do let's talk
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about when we first saw the movie do you guys remember when you first saw it Carter came out in 2000 if you could believe that was 20 years ago
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yeah I thought the theater I did not well we knew that Doug never sees any of those movies in the theaters that this
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was kind of a big deal because this was like right around and I didn't do any the research that I hopefully you guys did so you can carry me through this but
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this was that period odds are if you wanted to see a brand-new slime movie you were getting it on home video the day it came out big theatrical release
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like Get Carter was kind of a big deal like I remember we were pretty excited about yes I agree this came out three years after
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Copland Copland was a critical Darlene did well with critics most people liked it nobody thought it was a terrible film
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at a great cast we've reviewed that film on this channel we all liked it we thought Sloane's performance was great it was a factor of type performance and
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everything Craig or Doug do you have any indication as to why sli's career after
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Copland just went almost as fast as it went up in praise it disappeared again why I believe the answer lies with mr.
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Harvey Weinstein who's currently serving time at Rikers I believe the Weinsteins did Stallone dirty they made him promises that weren't kept
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in terms of future movie projects after coplann and I believe that he was just done dirty by the wives jeez and you
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know the powers Harvey Weinstein had completely feasible to see how a Harvey Weinstein can stymie somebody's career
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even somebody is big and successful as sly I believe there's a big story there and hopefully one day we hear it because
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that's the only thing that makes sense to me you know with Coplin he showed that he could go in a different direction maybe critics and fans alike we're thinking like ok this is a new direction
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that Stallone it's going in he's getting older that action star thing is possibly behind him but then right after Kabul
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and he comes out with this and here we go another Stallone action film that we've seen a hundred times in the 90s well not entirely Doug he did do other
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movies before this I know one of them was ICU or detoxed so yeah you're right suck he only did two movies after this
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one of them was ants yes you can't really consider that's a cartoon and that he did detox it looks like driven and then detox was
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after that or ICU whichever you prefer at least what I'm seeing is 97 Copland 98 and 99 detox 2000 get Carter I got
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2002 for ICU yeah I have that too i I'm looking at IMDB Get Carter came out 2000 and then it was driven then it was ICU
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then it was avenging Angelo and then it was shade they know what spike is 3 so really we're talking about from a 3 to
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Flicka PT is wrong by the way guys oh that's weird detox listed is 99 it's really disheartening to see so many wasted
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years during this time of Sly he's 54 when he did get Carter and of course he doesn't look like your average 54 year
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old he's in great shape he's taking care of himself basically from Get Carter to Rocky Balboa in 2006 there's a 6-year
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period there where what he produces is crap you know it really is garbage films and then nothing really does kind of happen in his career he goes from basically
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from Copland if you really want to get down to it Copland in 1997 until rocky Balboa's 2006 it was
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the rocky 5 of his career he was done I mean it was a really tough time to be a alone fan I mean it wasn't just him though either I mean Arnold was
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going through the same kind of pains I mean he made a lot of garbage movies around this time do what was it the nature of films at the time was there's
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a change is this like I was just gonna ask like what was popular now at this time in 2000 so Lord of the Rings and Star Wars were big right about now it's
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funny to think that you know a guy in his early 50s would be considered old but it was one of those things where think sly and Arnold were both
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considered quote unquote too old to be action heroes as great as sly looks in this movie what five years later six
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years later he was filming rocky balboa where he was considered in the whole band yeah i saw this in the theaters get carter this was of course three years
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after Copland so means this big sly fan I think I even saw ants in the theaters because it was so desperate to see a Stallone film and CGI films back then
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were new and they were kind of big and so it's kind of cool to see a movie like dance in the theaters and I thought it was great that he took a stab at a
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family-friendly film but oh come on ride you know the real reason is he wanted to go to the studio to his sweat pants you
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have to go show up on set all buff and useful worked out you know he still worked out so get car comes out did you guys watch the trailer after you saw the
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film no I didn't watch the trailer so I watched the film last 24 hours I should say that first I watched it again just recently for the for this podcast
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episode I don't know if I seen it since I saw it in the theaters maybe once I think I had on DVD so out of courtesy I probably watched it at least once on my
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DVD back when I got in 2001 maybe and I know I owned the DVD but I remember it sitting on my shelf for ages I ended up
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selling it back in the day like at a garage sale or something and I have never revisited this film we've set this before with a couple of the other Stallone films that we've reviewed and
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this is one of the ones where I'm like oh now watching it again spoiler alert I can see why I never revisited it I can
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see why 20 years ago Ryan didn't feel the need to rush back to like I died like I've done with Copland for example yeah but you know what the problem is
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Ryan and it's something that really disappoints me about this show is you get all excited about a movie we're gonna cover
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since perfect example assassins was a movie that I held in such high regard for so many years because I hadn't seen
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it since I was 22 or whatever when it came out and I watched it again and it was dog [ __ ] Get Carter was a very similar experience for me I was a movie
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I actually dug out the DVD to watch it for this it's got the big used previewed sticker on it for blockbuster I got in
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an August of 2001 at Blockbuster previewed for $6.99 it sat on my shelf until I dug it out of a box from what I
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moved to watch it yesterday and I probably watched it you know the day I got it previewed at Blockbuster and I'm pretty sure I overpaid before we start
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breaking down the film and parts that we like or didn't like or what have you when I watched the trailer after the film I thought I'm gonna watch the
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trailer and boy the trailer that looked like a great movie I can't wait to see
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that Get Carter kudos to the trailer maker and I know that's their job to sell the movie but anyways let's go into the specs of this film this film was
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directed by fellow named Steven cave you ever heard of this guy Steven K no but I looked him up and he's got quite an impressive resume where a couple of
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notches on his holster if you know what I mean yes yeah okay I know I wanna know who the Steven K guy is because you're
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absolutely correct so this dude from New Zealand he's currently we don't know his exact age according Wikipedia but he's born in 63 so he's 56 and 57 years old
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right now he dated Teri Hatcher and Eva Longoria in their prime from the
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desperate housewife days he was married to Piper Perabo from what coyote ugly and she did a show on USA called covert
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affairs no he's still married to her he married her in 2014 okay so you think he did in his head he did it like an F marry kill he was like I'm gonna marry
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Piper Perabo yes Teri Hatcher maybe he killed Longoria I don't know I don't know what he looks like but he's either handsome
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rich or well it looks like after he you know had the Get Carter experience it looks like he pivoted to TV he's currently does a lot of directing on
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that new Kevin Costner TV show called Yellowstone which I actually want to see okay so that's Steven K the director but not a big film career more of a big TV
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career Get Carter was based on a novel by Ted Lewis called Jack returns home yes and it was also a film with Michael
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Caine in 1971 or whatever that's right yeah a remake right yeah based on a book
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you know it's dicey the book is not named yet Carter in both movies or named Get Carter so in this one it seems like they were definitely capitalizing on the
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success of that hot Michael Caine movie from 1971 right that's a good point Craig I was gonna say what is it a remake of is it a reinterpreted of the
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book or the movie or both foil alert for those who have not seen that game Get Carter with Michael Caine his character he actually dies in an in that film was
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a much darker film oh wow it's a much darker film apparently it starts dark and ends dark it's probably better to watch this get Carter and go back and
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watch the original but that might be a more pleasurable experience says the law never died at the end of one of his films mmm my code is elegant is my
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jesting device right now I didn't say no you idiots you know I like to think he died at the end of last blood I don't care what anyone says but thankfully
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last Blood Part two will prove you wrong and then the writer of this film that granted he adapted this screenplay from
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a book and a movie where he wrote American History X David McKenna blow and SWAT and he's currently a professor
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of Arts at some calls right now I had no idea who this guy was well you've heard of American History X of course yeah I didn't know that he was
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that I don't know how big even that movie was American History X yeah was it huge critically it was it's got one of
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the greatest scenes in cinema history don't say I can't even say no I'm the curb stop I'll stop at all there's this
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amazing moment between Ed Norton and I were furlong ready for a long where ed Norton's talking about how in prison he
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was raped and he goes through this really serious emotional moving discussion about being violated in the
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shower and they cut back to a present time and Eddie furlong looks at him this is I'm really sorry that happened
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you like what do you say that's weird that's not a repeat viewing type movie
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for me oh I've seen it a bunch oh really you like it what does that say about me in the flea shop movie if you
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look up top Nikkei the director I mean he's a true independent spirit ed Norton is also kind of a fiercely a guy who was
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very into his point of view too so when you get to two guys like that it makes for an interesting film I've seen American History X at other times but I understand
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Ryan's point to you there's certain films that you see once and you don't need to see again just because of the subject matter or the way it makes you feel people say that about Schindler's
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List it looks like somebody waved to us Ryan Aaron Aaron thanks for watching yeah yeah yeah okay he didn't turn out
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already all probably how nostalgic did you guys get when you saw the franchise pictures logo they're not a company
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anymore are they no it was that dude Elie Samaha something like that he also produced driven ooh but I believe there
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was some kind of legal scam surrounding franchise pictures and I think Stallone lost a bunch of money on that as well yeah so I can't catch a break with the
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studio skinny that's why he started Balboa productions so we rip other people off yeah probably want to take it
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into his own hands do you guys know who Robert Browning is this movie starts with the cold that's all we expect of man this side of the grave his good is
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knowing he is bad I thought he was the guy that directed that movie freaks that's Todd browning I'm sorry yeah
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they're gonna quote the guy that directed freaks the punctuation confused me here the way you just read it Ryan it makes sense but the way that I was
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reading it I had no idea what the hell this was trying to say right no it's not very clear his good is knowing he is bad I don't even know what that quote means
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EEP yeah I went online to like look up an interpretation of it and there really wasn't much that I could find I think
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it's stupid well that's actually the problem with his movie right off the bat it tells you that it's gonna try and be
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this serious you know exploration of seemingly bad people doing bad things were met people
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attempting to do good things the movie opens up with Carter chasing down some you could tell he's a mobster or some
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sort of gambler or whatever have you and yeah downtown Las Vegas that's Fremont Street you got the Binion's they're out front of the goal did not get there
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yeah you guys come to Vegas we'll go down to Fremont Street we'll get some fried Oreos all right can I see boom jr.
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yeah yeah you do watch sons of anarchy yeah we're scrubs that's John C McKinley stolen plays a character called Zack
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Carter yeah yeah I don't know why I know I know what we do let's uh play a little bit this scene here where Jack Carter is
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beating up this guy for whatever reason Jack Carter's biggest swing man in that gang or whatever whatever you want to call organization that he works for John
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C Mogilny he plays a guy named Connor matter Connie it matters so John C McKinley plays Conn McCarty I
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loved his first name is Khan I get it and so he's kind of like a fast talker I love John C McKinley and his character
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in this I like the animated and fast with the quips that's what he's good at hey listen to Kahn talk here for a
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second he I'm so not buying this it's not even funny Kemosabe he's my brother Connie's my little brother and he's dead he left a wife and
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kid up there so I'm going I own that let me get this straight now you owe him here's the bad news sports fans it's a little late I'm not a dumb guy I don't
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think I am but I actually had to refer to the Wikipedia plotline a couple times to kind of follow who's who in the zoo
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and why Jack Carter is the way he is to these individuals throughout the movie and we'll get to some of these characters I'm like how does he know
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this person from the past what's his connection he knows Mickey Rourke's character let's say for example he knew him they have a history they're having
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this conversation in Seattle and the only reason why Jack Carter has gone to Seattle from Las Vegas is because his brother was killed in Seattle look at
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the title of the book that the movie is based on it's Jack's return home obviously he had a big life that he left
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behind to go become a lucrative Vegas enforcer I don't think he went out to Vegas an honest guy and became a mobsters muscle he was probably
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involved in that to some degree at home you also see that the Mickey Rourke character what Cyrus or whatever his
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name is the business he's involved in is new to Jack it almost seems to me like they were doing street-level [ __ ]
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together and then you know Jack went off to Vegas and did what he did and then Cyrus sort of pivoted into the seedy underbelly of
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the internet yet Seattle doesn't seem like a big-time market for underground crime that's just me I think there is a see I believe in any large city will
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have it I hear what you're saying Craig about the book I don't know how much of his based on the book took place in a different part of the world they could
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have easily said hey this used to be your hometown you enriched your clothes growing up and you guys are tight growing up in you and you helped each
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other even through one that you were doing that you're not supposed to be doing but then you left for the bigger Las Vegas money and all this stuff did I
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miss that kind of dialogue we didn't know what his connection was to Seattle watching the movie no no I think there was a lot of unanswered questions in
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this movie if you look at the plot though it's it's pretty straight line from beginning to end at least in terms of how it it unfolds Jack learns his
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brother dies jack goes and ask Michael Caine who did it Michael Caine lies to him he goes to Cyrus gets him to mix up
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with Cyrus goes to Alan [ __ ] you know and then rinse repeat and then we get to the end of the movie everybody kind of
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just blames one another in a circle I mean there's no mystery really I mean aside from the reveal of what happened to Rachel II cook I think we've just
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said the plot very well I don't think we have to go through this movie necessarily like point by point we can talk about just different parts of it well if you guys want to talk about
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slide sharkskin suit well that's why I started doing the two minute synopsis because we don't really need to go bit
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by bit through the movie okay go ahead with that then yeah go I got Jack Carter and a Forrester for Las Vegas mobster it's traveling home to attend the funeral for his brother Richie
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who died in a drunk driving accident at the funeral Jack meets his niece Doreen Doreen tells Carter that her father wouldn't drink and drive which raises
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some suspicion in Carter he also meets Ritchie's friend Eddie who Jack starts asking questions about which you too he starts looking at his brother's affairs and finds that Richie
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was involved in a porn ring with producer Cyrus who is Mickey Rourke's character Jack finds a disc that shows
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women being drugged and raped by Eddie and another friend Geraldine one of these girls happens to be Richie's own daughter Doreen jack
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goes on a man on fire style rampage and takes care of everyone involved in his brother's death before driving off into the sunset maybe were seen that
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Spiderman meme where shows three different spider-man's pointing at the other spider-man yeah yes yeah that's
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this movie picture Jack Carter picture him in the middle he's asking each spider-man who was responsible for
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killing my brother they're all like it's that guy the big reveal of course is it's the Michael Kane character thing and it should be noted that Michael
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Caine when he was originally filmed and they did a test screening I guess or some sort of early early test screening and audiences loved seeing Michael Caine
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in the film so much that they actually shot and added scenes to this movie and
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made him the bad guy at the end yeah Wow okay it was more like a fun little cameo yes I think the idea of resume was gonna
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do a nod a wink maybe Stallone and Kane actually have a professional relationship or friendship to do their time filming victory
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together III yeah that's why Michael Caine decided or agreed to doing this film not that Michael Caine is opposed to doing schlocky films he's done his
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fair shot as the revenge I admired that about mr. Sir Michael Caine that he's
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not opposed to doing walky type or silliness type movies eh and he actually brings up as he will do his a acting
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game to this film what do you think of his acting in the film Michael Caine you know what you're getting with him he's not a guy that's gonna completely transform himself like Daniel day-lewis
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or anything which is no disparaging of Michael Caine's talent as an actor I think he's got a very very direct kind
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of smooth acting style I always enjoy seeing him on screen if you haven't watched it in a while watch him play Austin Powers dad and that last Austin
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Powers movie just a comedic tour de force agreed here we're talking about Michael Caine and the fact that he did such a great job on
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his cameo that apparently their early test screenings were of such that audience is one of more of him so they
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actually rewrote the film to make him the twist at the end I was wondering if his involvement in the first place was
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and not to the first film a cameo in that respect that's it for sure he just really wanted to work with Stallone
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again because they work together on victory yeah for our listening after listening audience Doug went to go when he left the camera we had this whole
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discussion in his absence to now he's come back in welcome to the conversation anyway I heard he wanted to work with
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Stallone again since then we haven't is she here again that we've had this before with some of Stallone's films is we have a clash with the director in the
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studio of the tone they want the film to be the studio kind of wanted a generic action film from mister action himself
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Sylvester Stallone I think he might have been kind of looking for a return to that action type film this film had scenes of it with a car chase to fight
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in the elevator but a very low body count it was dark in some places but it wasn't and it had some you know cheesy one-liners but then it didn't
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again as another disjointed I couldn't pick a tone did you guys find that too yeah is Sylvester stolen actually signed on after reading the original screenplay
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which was much more violent and focused more on the revenge aspect of a story I guess while he was already signed on the
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script went through all these changes and became the toned down version now you're talking about there were some times when I legitimately laughed and usually it was mostly at John C McKinley
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yeah it had trouble like sticking to one tone the one thing that's funny is when you watch a movie the year it's made you
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know like in 2000 we were used to certain kinds of visual information being sent our way in film but it's so
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funny to see how stuff like that ages and you know we talked about assassins how assassins is like the quintessential nineties movie this movie is a perfect
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example of early 2000s filmmaking got those retros off-kilter Batman shots the
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skin editing the dated music using music from the late 90s in the early 2000s instead of traditional score
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in certain scenes just made this movie really feel its age it didn't feel timeless certain good movies rocky for
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example you know it was made in the seventies but you watch it it's a movie that takes place in the 70s but there's nothing about it that screams the year it was made
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and this film does that and it's really hard when a film sort of reminds you of the era it was made in is obnoxious
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this score I should say in particular and we're talking about the music and the music aging the film I watched this and I felt like oh boy here we go new
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Metal Fight Club kind of ruined that it came out in 1999 so just one year before this film Fight Club kind of had that
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dust brothers that techno whatever metal type intro and they try to do it here with get Carter the same idea you have
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this weird editing and different lenses and let's just listen to some of the music here that we're talking about
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[Music]
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but techno it doesn't age very well no in the chase
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to chase scenes and the fight scenes it's really brought to the forefront so what do you guys think of a slice goatee and was this the first film that he wore
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one that we were aware of if you don't count Nighthawks he had that bad diet great mmm here the full beard night haunts that he did you're right
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I've never liked it on sly I think it looks better with the beard like he's doing now with Samaritan well you know that he has to like manicure it right
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like he's got to keep it just a certain length before he goes out and does his buck kick and every day he takes out his trimmers he shaves the side of his cheek senators chin and he takes out his
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little trimmer accuses that same length throughout the film but you know what's died too he's 54 and he looks great I wish he kind of always just went natural
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with everything I wish he never touched his face I wish you let the hair be what it is because I think Arnold did a better job of that through much of his
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years just be great be a little bit weathered or Clint Eastwood for example the manly men of film when they kind of embrace her age and make that part of
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just their look I think you can embrace it it still look tough and be tough yeah you think he ever had any hair work done oh absolutely
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oh you're adorable Doug look I'm blessed with a full head of hair so so I sort of I guess sort of my wife she you're getting a little thin up top there no
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I'm not just kidding how dare you that I hope at 54 that my hair is as thick and luscious Stallone's
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I didn't know if some people just have that they have a good head of hair throughout if you go back a look at some of the rock III stuff and he has hair now where he didn't before mm-hmm I
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could be wrong I could be wrong his look for the Samaritan film right now he's he's very gray that hair became braids too so I know they can do
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transplants or additions I'm not sure he's worth five hundred million dollars he can afford getting his hair did I like that he's you know leaning into the
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more natural just alone at some point he stopped the plastic surgery people that have it done throughout their life they grow old and he looked like a doll
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because the face doesn't move yeah at some point stops so he's aged how he should but whatever surgery he had back
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in the days didn't any lasting issues were makes him look completely fake so speaking of plastic surgery let's
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talk about great Segway Louis I want Mickey Rourke he's great he's another
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guy that didn't take advantage of a key opportunity and remember how hot he was when the wrestler came out yeah and then
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he did Iron Man 3 and then everybody or Iron Man 2 and then the wrestler was his return after having so many personal issues right yeah it was one of those
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movies that sort of mirror art during life he was a boxer for a few years or whatever it was and apparently according to him he got reconstructive surgery for
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his face because of the boxing injury and may I say to you mr. work you should have taken your chances with the broken nose or whatever you thought you had
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because there's no way that your surgery or positive surgery is a better fix than just having your face heal well it's every UFC fighter get plastic surgery
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after a fight I have you seen some of those faces after those UFC events they are just pumpkin faces they don't get plastic surgery on their face it might
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be naive here helping out no you're not the thing with Mickey Rourke is he was as a young actor I mean really really really had some guy and then you you
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look at him now and age aside it's weird and here he was kind of in that middle stage he probably had a little bit of surgery and then you get that really
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weird scene though between him and sly we're slides like let me see her let me see your eyes and he takes the glasses off and he says I'm I still pretty it
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was a weird moment that was a callback let's hear the Mickey Rourke and sly exchange now these obviously co-starred again together in the Expendables film
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did they have a working history before this film I couldn't remember I thought my head I know Mickey had a working relationship with Frank Stallone they
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had done a wet bar fly together sly and Mickey work were good friends before this and it was slice job to make sure
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Mickey showed up every day and behaved because he was in the middle of like his drug addiction and [ __ ] so they did have a relationship I don't know if they work
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together before this though enough to size like no no I really wanted to play Cyrus the virus here and don't all this
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[ __ ] here see it this is the new world brother a long lines my girl my business why you
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running around chasing deadbeat woman in a big bull baby I got basically
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his role in this film is he's the guy that gets the woman for the Alan [ __ ]
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character so Alan [ __ ] we haven't introduced his character yet he's the computer mogul he's worth nine hundred million dollars he apparently doesn't
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want anything to do with the pornography industry either financed or provided the software well maybe it's the software
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now this is really quaint because this is mm it's kind of the early days of the pornography as we know it drives the internet technology is kind of it it is
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what it is we're seeing that here quick little images or stills of one of the scenes there's a terrible teens I think that's what I said there it's this early
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day of the internet providing this plethora of nudity for the masses was kind of quaint almost deep-web --is--
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back from the day where it's now it's like a McDonald's drive-through but hey Doug's like I know it's terrible teens
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is that your favorite spot to go to or no no no no I stay away from the teens who wants get a visit from law
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enforcement by typing that into their browser they're watching yeah they're watching does it get Carter can you imagine that while she's on screen can
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we talk about a Rhona Mitra or something she really surprised me cuz I completely forgot she was in this movie but did you
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guys ever see a movie from like 2010 ish called doomsday it was like an escape from New York ripoff crossed with Mad
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Max well she plays the lead in that movie she's got an eyepatch and everything awesome movie if you have a chance check it out it's called doomsday
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it was directed by Neil Marshall who uh he directed a bunch of Game of Thrones but theatrically he did the descent I
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think it is actually no yeah yeah really fun movie though it's like post-apocalyptic and she's great in it I had completely forgotten she was in Get
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Carter because she's pretty forgettable in this but in doomsday she's awesome do you ever see life of David gale I
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have purged every Kevin Spacey movie from my memory right well that's one of them do a student of his that was trying to
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blackmail him I think her character's name was like Berlin or something like that she was really really cute in that really
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good-looking that Kevin Spacey was gay when the movie yeah he was okay it was as though is he gay oh it's like
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in real life yeah did you come all the posit I didn't it's Harvey Weinstein innocent okay so
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moving on we're gonna get to worst of the best territory yeah and no kidding yeah she's great she played a good strung-out too bad for her wrong place
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wrong time individual in this whole mess this a Penn ography ring great wigs yeah as we saw later Carter pulls wanted them
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off in the later scene polls are off her head now what do you guys is feeling on that sequence where Carter tries to extract information from her regarding
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her friend Eddie who was friends with Ritchie which we didn't knowledge of the spots about I feel like we're doing a horrible job describing smoothy Iowa
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you'll fix it the Edit well no this one I don't think I can fix we don't know the problem is we don't really beak it it's hard for us to follow plot if you
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haven't seen get harder at the end of day yes Carter's brother got killed by these people because he wasn't exposed and basically he was going to expose
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that his daughter and Carter's knees got raped during a building what he called
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was it was it filmed for the internet or was it somebody felled this that was their brand right they would trick these girls or drugged them and it's a coming
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back to some place with them and had their away with them yeah and now Rachael Leigh Cook who plays Denise she
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was 20 during the filming of this film if she does look like she's 16 did you ever see that movie she's all that yes did you know that if you wear glasses
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you're ugly yes yes yes that's all you take your glasses off and let your hair down all of a sudden your prom queen yeah just like a like Adrian from Rocky
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take off those glasses that's right do you guys want to talk about that scene were sly interrogator is that the one
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that you said took a cue from rocky did you watch the video that I made I saw the clip come up in the movie when you know and I was like oh this is the scene Ryan was referre
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- did you add some music or something I know I logged underlaid a first date scene at the rocky film underneath Oh
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when she's trying to leave it's like I thought it was very good it didn't get the traction I thought it deserved I don't know if people actually
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listen to it because when you lose or watch and listen to the clip you have the rocky Adrian sound scene underneath
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of the scene where he's trapping this girl yeah it actually light up really well where he's tells Adrian do you have nice eyes and he's actually Carter's holding up her face look at her eyes so
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I don't know I'll have to go back and watch that I'm never a fan of make a man cornering a woman if a girl feels
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trapped or you know like she's being confined or something like that always gets me a little jittery here's the scene and I know the Carter is the tough
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guy I know he's looking for the killer of his brother I understand that even during this part right now he doesn't know that his niece has been raped he's just an angry tough individual and I get
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that's the character that he is he's a mob enforcer he enforces yeah what the mob wants for him to do in Las Vegas he's not a saint
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he's an amoral or I would call it a dark hero but that being said this girl even if she has something to do we know that
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he can break her in half and he gets right in her face and it's a very uncomfortable I was the director of this film I might have shot it and directed a
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little bit differently she ain't going anywhere she's obviously pathetically adjusted a strung-out sex worker check out this kind of aggressive senior
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what was he to you I met him at the bar he was just as got him that's all that's
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all he was nice of the rest you know he's married did you know that what do you want right there there's some of the kisser okay it's not a crime I gotta be
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somewhere I want to know what happens now if you didn't know the dialogue that's why I
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put the rock you see underneath your cuz it'll remind that when he puts the hand out and she can't quote unquote get away yeah yeah cuz in this scene he is
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trapping her he is making no bones about it of that he doesn't want her to go when he's Intimidator without you know quote-unquote laying the hand on her
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butt creating an area of danger but all the same that's his character he's a he's a mob enforcer this he's not a nice
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guy it's an antihero right you know what the body count for this film is didn't one do a body count by Carter's hands
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one five not even five is it I think it's too even the two mob guys I gotta
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crash their car that's not a car crash that would kill two people were no no no I assumed it was just the one at the end when he shoots somebody in the back he
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actually threw Eddie off the oh yeah well Eddie killed himself come on didn't he'd kill Cyrus - I know he held the gun up to him then I thought there was like
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a gunshot it was a transition editing kind of a dunk a heavy sound but it wasn't a gunshot it was ridiculous so
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stupid can I bring it back to the cat piss comment you're gonna Cyrus yeah go ahead please
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craigers talking about him pulling uh Cyrus's sunglasses off and wanted to look at his eyes and uh Cyrus says still pretty and he
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says yeah like cat piss in the snow and just think about where you are because it's late yesterday slick relax
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I'm just play me a little bit oh yeah get that don't put your hands on me come
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on let me see your eyes come on whatever turns you on Jack they're still pretty yeah like cat piss
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in the snow it was such a random line that I felt like I had to research it a little bit it's a call back from the
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Michael Caine's character in the original he's talking to another guy removes his sunglasses and goes still the same piss holes in the snow
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the phrase eyes like piss holes in the snow is like an old English phrase is meaning deeply sunken or squinting eyes and it's most commonly used to describe
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somebody after a hangover the insult makes more sense for the same with no explanation like what the hell does it
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mean you know there were people in the theatre that had seen Get Carter if nitrate 71 and they were like oh my
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god and this again is Mickey Rourke then
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I noticed this wouldn't you watch him in any film since his messed-up surgeries especially it's this one this is the beginning of those surgeries he's never
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completely in the light for very long a lot of his scenes they're half his face is always covered up and shadow on lighting they never hold his face in a
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shot by itself for very long he's edited out quickly I wonder what the discussion is to have his face like this right here half in shadow because you don't see that all the time like how many times
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you just see people's face always in half and I wouldn't be surprised if it was some stupid effing stylistic choice you know will obscure him in the shadows
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to show you you know how he's on the dark side of the Internet I wouldn't surprise me that's probably the kind of
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dribble you need to spout to get teri hatcher and be before you longoria so to
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say the Stephen Kay bedded teri hatcher and Eva Longoria like that's amazing it's weird Wow
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I got a google what he looks like oh dude he oh my goodness he bats way above his average oh you got a picture of him
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yeah Craig's on the cake had to be the 90s you must be a tripod all right all right
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so here's Michael Caine meeting the Jack Carter characters of course the big thing for everyone here is we all know that he played this character 20 years
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previous or 29 years previous so it's exciting for the Get Carter fanatics to watch this torch passing so to speak and
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this should be noted there was a plan for a sequel to this movie thank God really should be noted to this movie had 11% rotten tomato rating that's pretty
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low is it yeah you don't say and the other thing I've note here but this movie did it have some accolades the film was nominated for
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worse can you believe it Doug worst
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actor as he's Razzies that's right so again there was there was another one one that I never heard of at the 2000
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stinkers bad movie awards the film received four nominations worst picture worst director worst actor and worst remake or sequel right thousand stinkers
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bad movie awards you know that's a new one I wonder if they're still around let's just check that real quick this Los Angeles based group of film buffs and movie critics devoted to honoring
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the worst films of the year I don't think it's as illustrious as the Razzies a Razzie you know they stopped in 2006 you know they couldn't take down the
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Razzies they stopped in 2006 they just loved Arango Stallone I don't know why yeah they do cuz he was even the worst thing about this film that it's not it's
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not really his fault there was a misdirection bad editing terrible dialog I mean maybe it's selfish using it but as much as I hate to say it
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Jack Carter's not that great of a character he's got that you know those two catchphrases Jack Carter and you don't want to know
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me the other one which I actually think is pretty cool and I think John seemingly makes a joke about it what he says we could take this to the next
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level which I thought was the funny line but I mean aside from that he's not that interesting of a character the other thing I think we could have got is some
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kind of flashback or something establishing the relationship he had with his brother because John C McKinley pointed out that his brother wasn't that
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great of a guy and obviously they didn't have a great relationship and a Jack's doing this almost out of a sense of loyalty to family agreed there was a
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scene where Jack Carter goes to the widow Geraldine was that her name yeah that was um Miranda Richardson's right
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that was Liam Neeson's wife no that's etosha Richard census yeah you're right yeah then who the heck is
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Miranda Richard she's been a lot of stuff she's done a very career between theaters movies and TV so she's a very
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busy actress but she's just never reached the I don't know why I thought she was the liam neeson life I think just last name maybe I don't know yeah
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same with Rachael Leigh Cook she's 40 years old now so she was 20 when this movie came out and she's had that big career too if you look at her credits but they're all kind of just boys work
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her last TV performance was 2020s Criminal Minds she's been in some music videos she's done a lot of yeah she plays Tifa Lockheart the video games
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franchise that's she's the voice actress for that you remember prior to she's all that her big break out Josie and a
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pussycat no no she did that you know one of those this is your brain on drugs commercials oh okay with the egg in the
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frying yeah oh yeah yeah yeah Wow brain on drugs are yummy you guys know
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CinemaScore right yes what I'd like about CinemaScore is for better for worse what they do is they actually pull people when they're leaving the theater
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so it's like their initial type reaction so what I like about them even more than Rotten Tomatoes this is my feelings
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because they're pulling the average audience member right after they seen the film whereas a critic is there to no pick and pull apart and analyze whereas
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a movie goer with the popcorn and their kids or whatever there could they come out of the theater like oh yeah we had a lot of fun it was great well what would you give it on a score of a +2 F right
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that's the scale for many films most people are pretty positive just they had a good time they had a fun watching the movie because they paid money they went
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to the movies however the average audience member came out of this will be when they're polled by CinemaScore got a
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d-plus so that's very telling you got these people walking out of the movies and they're just not happy in all
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honesty he shoots a guy in the back mmm-hmm no understandably you know Michael Caine says not gonna turn around
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or whatever I'm not gonna justify your gun and he shoots him in the back but still at the end of the day the movie ends with our hero quote unquote hero
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shooting somebody in the back true who was it it was a director or the studio that wanted a toned down version I think the studio wanted kind of a more
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of a romp and stomping type action film and I think the director wanted to follow the original script of a dark revenge film alright look at films like
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taken or man on fire where these guys it's just take no prisoners kind of thing like you want answers you want to
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get revenge on the people that hurt your family or hurt you you kill everybody that's in your way without question and
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I think this movie would have benefited from that type of violence exactly and I think you brought up a good point is
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that's what this film should have been that's what I mean the body count was -
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yeah is it possibly the worst car chase in history I don't let us enjoy car
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chases but when these kicked in I sped up my video player to like times two or three just to get through it like yeah yeah yeah yeah and they probably looked
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like exciting car chases cuz the one that culminates in that crash it's one of the worst car chases ever it's just
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two guys like swerving in a traffic yeah yeah it's like a dance more than a chase it's weird they play chicken the whole
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idea is the bad guys say oh I'm I don't want to get hit head-on so that's when they go to the side and get stuck in a stairwell terrible so for those who
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voted for this film thank you we want to make it known that we put this film up for our poll on our Twitter and our Facebook page and get Carter one I've
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been talking about shade right now thank you we'll get there looking at Thandie
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Newton in SMM gear but no you bastards it should have been a straight-up type
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taken film or a man on fire those are amoral heroes like especially the Denzel Washington character at manoa that's a great film and here we're kind of
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conflicted he shoots a guy in the back at the end of film and we're not led to believe he'll kind of be the way he should have broken that girl's arm when he went into the apartment
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that's what the movie would have been today I would have rather he came back like a John wick type you know white laser-focused yeah you killed my brother
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I work for the mob I am NOT a good person like Unforgiven did that right I am NOT a good person I might be the main
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a character in this story but you have killed somebody who's my family you raped my niece and I work for a mob in Las Vegas so I'm coming to Seattle I'm
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gonna break arms I'm gonna throw people off balconies I'm gonna shoot people in the back I'm gonna get the information I was revenge and he goes home that would
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have been - yeah maybe some elements of torture like in taken it looks like I up to the light bulb is electrocute them oh man let's hear this interplay with
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Michael Caine we want to get a sound bite of Michael Caine is acting with slider can you hold on a second can I
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help you I'm sorry I wasn't at the funeral would you like some coffee or
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time no I'm fine thanks take my ass a lot of money just by doing a solid job so how long were they running this place
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for you well since we've been out back five years five years and no problems no no enemies there's something that tellin
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ya what the bloody hell does that make us relax listen I don't like hard cases coming in here and talking to me like I know something if there's someone out
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there putting out something about me then I wanna know who the hell it is and when I know what it is and who's been saying it I might just take the matter
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up with you jack my my my attic man so British but you're out of shape it needs a full-time job so please so what do you
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say there you're a jack Carter since Ultimo your large man but you're out of shape or salted and staining the shapes a full-time job
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he's always got to do a little bit of a do you know what's that Craig a little bit of shame people body shame Stallone
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it did happen a lot in his let's be honest in his 90s career and it's the in here in 2000 we sent him a few of the
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films here where he is body shame people or diet shame them the body shaming in the diamine is I wish you how do we
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when we've gone back and revisited these old slide film simply should a tally didn't kept that log of the you're a
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large man but you're out of shape okay not like me it's another funny line that like what Jack Carter was talking to miranda Richardson said what was your
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relationship like with your husband before the accident I he said before the accident
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he had a clarify can you imagine who she's welcome to the accident we've never fought yeah we know it's quiet and
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then the following day they were having a conversation it was horrible dialogue her delivery of her dialogue was terrible she really did formulated miranda Richardson I know she
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was given a really crap dialogue but you saw here with Michael Caine that we just showed that even when you'd given kind of crap you just kind of bring it you know and Michael can't get it bring it
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even with the crappy whatever he just brings that British you might night where miranda Richardson was she was lethargic and boring her bored she said
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stood Stallone's character she said I just don't know if I'm gonna be alone for the rest of my life you literally lost your husband like a week ago let's
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tone down the rest of your life's talk but she was talking to him like she's been alone for five or six years after the death of a spouse you know I mean it
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was a we right you're still in mourning I don't think the fear was just held the day ago and you're talking about being alone for the rest your life yeah but
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he's not even cold one of my favorite lines of the film was not too sure it was done by to be honest with you Mickey Rourke I think did it Sid got a couple
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of good ones yeah he said you're a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest yeah he had another good one the rabbits
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out of the hat Jack let's see if it jumps oh yeah those are cheesy just awful lions throughout the film Jack
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Carter is trying to have a relationship with the nice kind of be there for her she's just lost her dad she's family oh that's fine I get the motive what I'm
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confused about is at the end of the film he you know shaves his goatee and you know there's a comment like all and I like you're like your new look and all
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that stuff it's kind of stupid they even make that in an issue what I want to know is why couldn't he have a relationship with her nobody knows
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your guess is as good as any of ours maybe the sequal would have gotten into that oh I'll give a robbed of it don't
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say that again great tragedies of our time I had no idea this was a Christmas
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film mm-hmm sardine next Christmas season I'm gonna put Get Carter in for the Jesus you do that yeah I'm going to
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mark my words there was more Christmas carols and Christmas trees in this film there is a die hard to be honest with you I'd rather not I'm gonna hold you to
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that Ryan I'm gonna make sure you watch this epic movie around Christmas well I'm not watching it I'm just talking about it I know we didn't talk too much
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about Alan Cummings character but can you play that golf of course why I like golf monologue that's a great monologue
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you're plaintiff in it's loose with the word great aren't we it's weird because he's kind of afraid of Jack Carter cuz it's a big guy he's
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using no mafia enforcer or whatever mob enforcer but then out of the blue he kind of gives us analogy of I can get
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rid of people that I don't like it was an odd analogy or metaphorical threat to the guy that's gonna threaten your life it's almost like the writers had a great
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metaphor about something but they wanted to throw it in but it didn't quite fit what what are we talking about here it was like in his notebook of cool lines but it's not cool it doesn't fit it's
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not a great metaphor by any means it's it's real is that you really feel Doug I like his character and I like Alan Cummings I think he's a great actor
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mm-hmm what this is just it's just shoehorn that it seems like this empty threat it gives him here mr. karti calls a mr. Carter the whole time okay mr.
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Carter yeah things like golf and girls become pretty important you know but they don't go real well with the glasses and pocket protector image my
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stockholders prefer so so he pulls for you
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it's a funny scene there hello the cartel oh why did they do happen you know why I like golf mr. Carter
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cuz the ball just keeps going away the only sport will you hit that little sucker on and doesn't come back at you I've got to want to go after it and get
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it and when I get to it I just knock it away again
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see what I'm saying mr. Carter no actually once I get rid of it I never want to see it again you hit it
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and then you just walk up to it and it's there so you do see it again and you hit it again I don't understand what he's getting at plus there's this threatening
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music better delete what he's saying who are you threatening a little waif is he saying to him look you go away yeah
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don't bother me anymore okay and he's really just talking about the 18th hole right yeah cuz otherwise used to be them
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all again after the threat there's this little it shows him driving like how does that conversation going the threats done now you're just shows
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I'm driving to the clubhouse I guess in terms of Seattle movies is this the most Seattle this movie I know assassins took
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place part of it took place in Seattle right but this movie it's raining all the time which is what I've heard about Seattle 7 it takes place in co-writes
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7 might be the most Seattle Seattle is movie it rains in every scene but the last one there was another Alan Cummings
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moment when he goes to his house or whatever and there's that big burly guy there and he was on the cappuccino
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actually maybe laughs oh yeah the big Jetta Blake and then that guy you know sly beats him up later in the movie just
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one pun yeah I think nobody likes the list guy that was the joke and it's like a jump cut too so you don't even see the
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guy disappears yeah magic guys God it's like poof a if you put a poof sound effects it's like a magic trick do you
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want to do the elevator scene I'd like the largest elevator in movie history there is one part in the scene this is actually for me the best part of the
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whole film not just the scene the camera trick or the story trick of him showing in his mind the different happened
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that's fine that's kind of cliche we've seen before in films but actually there's a scene in the sequence that had the patterned the whole film after this
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kind of energy it would have been a different film this elevators like do you apartments in New York
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we'll you're telling me remember Peter and the elevator Christmas music yeah stay Jack when I said you take care of
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the business or the business we'll take care of you did we have a bad connection on the cell maybe we weren't listening doesn't matter doesn't hey sport I was
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real sorry to hear about you and Audrey what are you gonna do he's the big dog there's no way around that he gets the girl Jack you get what you
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get such a good line he gets the girl I like that we'll talk about they're actually after we've got to mention his girlfriend with the boss okay I'll show
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you the scene them time was coming up
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right here I love that sequence of Sly I've never seen him in the film
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ever since then kick somebody like that that violent kicking the stomp yes this is what I was talking about before the
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very beginning this episode of the wasted years that we've had a slide I know he's one of the do wait mafia film before I think he was he's wanted to do
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Scarpa this would have been the perfect age the perfect stage in his career to attack that kind of role and this
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movie's teased me anyways is a slide facts I am a fan of his but I think most fans who were truly fans of his are frustrated by his career choices
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frustrated about what the some of the movies he's done where it's like instead of doing this film I guess Hyde says 2020 for everyone including actors it's
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just like that sequence of him just when he's just over that character throws him and punches him and this would have a great sequence from like a Goodfellas
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type film it reminds me of Tommy DeVito and maybe Conway beating up Billy batts in the bar because Jimmy come what was
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Robert De Niro's character starts Billy batts and Goodfellas when you mentioned it I didn't notice that when I first watched it when you mentioned that that's kind of whatever minded me of
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Goodfellas has Hollywood or cinema's greatest party ever which was the Billy batts welcome home party sure it's like
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the best party ever it was like three guys there welcome home party well you wanted to mention his relationship with
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the girlfriend that actress was played by gretchen Mol but the mob serve voiced by we never see them on Sizemore Tom
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Sizemore yeah they should have fleshed his character but he's a great mobster hide it the frustrating thing about that is you don't even need that whole part
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right what's her it shows that Jack's having a relationship with somebody that he's not supposed to be having a relationship with there's no consequent
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to it it's another unnecessary moment it flushes out the Jack Carter character a little bit but I mean it adds nothing to
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the story you could argue that it shows that the life he has back in Vegas isn't as great as if we believed it to be at the beginning of the movie
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maybe that's the sequel because we know the movie ends with him looking at the map going back to Vegas yeah Jack's back is this equal well uh Carter to Jack's
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back Jack's back oh yeah it would have been called get Carla to or got Carter
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it's got maybe just Carter you know Stallone loves those arbitrary
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sequel titles right it probably would have just been called Carter maybe would
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have been all the get yeah give him some
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stupid ethnic nickname that incorporated to get like Carter will get you know
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okay let's talk about that it's called get Carter we know in the English language get means take or it's over
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there bring it here call for Carter get him now that makes sense but first maybe two minutes of the film when he was
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utilized as his mob enforcer that his job is to what was it people make promises is his job to remind them of those promises or whatever that opened
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his secrets is him doing that that he's enforcing the loan shark or whatever it might be the title get Carter does it make sense for the rest of the movie
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we really can't blame this movie for that because it's the remake of get Carter from 71 so I don't know how much getting is done there they should have
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played it safe and named it out for the book and not the movie and then they could say Carter comes home ah that makes more sense
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home was Seattle okay he was raised in this area he left it for Las Vegas but he came back to take care of his brothers you know the revenge of his
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brother's death a simple revenge flick would have been much more satisfying a Carter's revenge sure get in when you watch the trailer as the way it's cut
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it's designed like a Guy Ritchie film like like a snatch mixed with Fight Club that type of it's not that at all it
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tries to be this neo-noir it's supposed to be like a smart thriller but it's neither smart nor thriller I had that feeling so I looked up the
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cinematographer Mauro Fiore oh wow and I thought that it had that feel there was one did that dude work on
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some of those movies no that's what I was back then he worked on smokin aces which a gimme
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yes I got a smokin aces that's at 2019 98 to 2000 two tight films exactly yeah yeah well that smokin aces was no six
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but it didn't have that I felt the same way that I had that kind of feel maybe
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morale Fiori took a page out of I rich you similar cinematographers workers smokin aces by the way the best Chris
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Pine performance you'll ever see yeah that's right smokin aces you might not recognize him he's exceptional in
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that movie smokin aces is a really cool fun film at which we were talking about it right now let me run out a sign the lease to do
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which we're gonna do eventually right let's add smokin aces to the list of movies that will cover I promise you we will mark today as the day we agreed
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that I want to show the scene here this is for one of our faithful listeners uh they were not Seco you know II all no sequel right oh yeah yeah he's a
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listener of all of our shows he listens to slide cast listens Rock a minute in fact he sent me a screenshot of our dual
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released their craic because he's got both you and I on the same feed and he's like I don't know which one the download from this so I thought that was funny
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well and they are different because we basically flipped the interviews that's right I actually saved my best for last looks like you did the same for yours
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hey I actually listen to when I downloaded the episode to listen to because I do listen to my episodes I
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downloaded from your feet Ryan oh I downloaded yours as well so there you go Fairplay Seco Seco he wanted to make sure that we acknowledged this acting
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performance by sly Winnie Christ so let's play that a little bit for Seco this is for you Seco he says this is his favorite two moment the movies sly cry
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the character Jack Carter has seen the video of his niece being sexually assaulted he's now seen her for the first time after seeing that video and
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kind of letting her know in a really 2,000 54 year-old man wave that you know you're a sexual assault victim and I
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know about I want to come for you but he doesn't just say it it's kind of like alluded to she finally catches on all you know what that I've been assaulted it's supposed to be a tender moment
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between East and uncle here it tells her you're special he looks up at the skies and cries a little bit none of this is
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your fault there you go that's for you
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Seco powerful moment Oscar moment now is
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that sharkskin suit waterproof yes okay without it now yes Mike Honda has the
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suit yes I think he did it for like Halloween probably around that time I know he's posted it on either his Twitter or his Facebook turn the
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pretender he was going through his wardrobe of sly clothing that he owns the gray suit was part of his wardrobe
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yeah well you know in another universe Mike has a successful Get Carter tour in
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Seattle filming location this is where
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Carter puts a gun to the face of Cyrus here at the and the fight and the Mickey Rourke the great action here
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he looks pretty dead but he's not but they told him that hey make your work don't move anything in your face he's like don't worry I can't
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Doug I did hear more of a gunshot sound there I think he killed him a better film would have shown the gun
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go off mm-hmm because he did kill Eddie off that balcony yeah that was there were no witnesses here he's gonna shoot somebody
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in the face in a middle of a smoke and rave they're all too tripping to notice anyway how do you think they filmed that
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shot there had to be was there a cutaway in the floor I don't know I would love to see the behind the scenes of this movie more than anything would you
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though right now I do it after you get an hour no no I'm not so sure so here's Alan Cummings doing the
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greatest act of his career pretending to be straight this was another thing that brought me back to the 90s is when
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Stallone's kicking his ass um it's hat he's not on his hat he's got like the blonde top like they crossed the top of
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his hair but everything else is brown everybody's getting their comeuppance he spares this Kinnear guy he does spared the the Mogul dude yeah the computer
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dude he psychologically defeats that guy yeah I thought there was gonna be a trickle of piss coming down as a lady or something pretty much I mean you
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mentioned how they sort of they added sequences to get Michael Caine you know less likeable so weird seeing him
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ruffling through or Carter's car and the fact that like Carter would just leave that DVD just sitting in his car it
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doesn't make any sense what's it matter that he gets a copy of that is that the only copy out there no yes maybe you're
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right mater the DVD shows again what just the sexual assaults happening yeah yeah Michael Caine's character he was
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the one that killed made it happen that his brother gets killed right he was the one holding all the strings okay why didn't he just shoot jack card
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in the office a moment he walked in are you trying to ask for logic Jack would ask enough questions he would ultimately
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be satisfied that his brother did die in a drunk driving accident and go home the fact that Michael Caine's character
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had him taken out you know under the ruse of a drunk driving accident shows that he doesn't really like to be too theatrical about what he does it's not
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like he was found you know shot up in the street okay how it get Carter there
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guys I saw it for the in the theater 20 years ago watch it again for the review of the film I think we did a piss-poor
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job apologize to our listeners I knew this would be a dangerous film to review as I was watching it because when we
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talked about call plan we had so much great stuff to talk about you know the scenes with Robert DeNiro and you you know like we were there are so many like
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different moments that we've we all couldn't wait to talk about even movie like assassins or or then again stopper my mom will shoot because of such a
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dumpster fire that there's just so much to talk about the danger of this film is it's just on that precipice of like huh
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it's not the horrible there's some good scenes there's some moments where you're like you could have done Michael Caine
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was good Stallone was fine with what he was given we're just dealing with a muddling oddly shot weird soundtrack
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I don't know and there's moments where I was just frustrated where this could have been a revenge mafia of revenge film with sly and his 50s that would
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have the perfect look at aging and mafia guy oh that would have been awesome but no we get this it's just frustrating that's straining is a good word for it
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because the bones of a great movie are here but they really it didn't put anything of substance behind that like
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since the loan in a man on fire type of revenge just rampage who wouldn't love to see that now I think you could pull
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it off you can pull it off that's why as a fan of sli's I'm so frustrated by him sometimes he didn't do some of these roles like Al Pacino did it Robert De
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Niro did it he can't blame him for this one though no but what I mean by is like choosing roles that are dark Robby I chose the darker role but then the
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director kind of painted down but even after this film okay this one didn't work out because like DeNiro does like Cape Fear he plays a man I would have
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been cool to see you slide like a Cape Fear like psychotic killer yes it totally would be really limited
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in himself by choosing you know kind of a certain kind of role yeah we have rocky and we have the Rambo the Patriot
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Rambo we have the Donna's lacan underdog rocky sly you've got those like that's fine now embrace the dark characters
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that are in you because again that scene in this movie gives you a two-second snippet of what this movie could have been I've just like an ass-kicking
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revenge movie of just like beating down people and anyway so it's over it is over all right what do you plug your
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shows there guys all right well I'm one of the hosts of Rocky minute we're covering the movie Rocky movies one minute at a time we have seasons one and
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two in the bag and we're currently recording for season three coming out this year sometime I'm Craig Cohen and you can hear me on as a guest on Rocky
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minute season one and two and also upcoming season three and you can also hear me monthly on this Stallone podcast
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network two times a year I serve up APIs ODIs like yes depending on when you're listening to this you might be a
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proximity to one of the two slight guest episodes and you can find sly cast on Facebook Twitter if you do search slide cast
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I'm always remiss if I don't say these two guys are great Doug and Craig it's a true honor and privilege to podcast with you guys I have the honor of editing
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these behemoths of episodes but what I say that I listen back I'm like man these guys are good they do every time they talk they sound good and I wonder
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if I'm the annoying one in the threesome so well I appreciate that not at all hey we just both released yesterday as of this recording
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discussions we've had about Creed two that are from when Cretu was in theaters so it makes for a really interesting listen am I in and I gotta say Ryan
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they're both great discussions one with myself and Mike kinda I had forgotten a lot of the beats we hit when we talked
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about Creed to Ryan and we go into some great great territory there there is a an excellent discussion related to the
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desert training sequence where you come up with a great cameo opportunity so if you haven't listened to that creep
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to discussion yet it's on both of our feeds it's really really worth it because Ryan I enjoyed the heck out of listening back
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to that thanks brother appreciate that Ryan of the going to distance the rocky series podcast we're currently on season
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six covering Rocky Balboa we're nearing sort of the Amika of a half hour to go in that film too after we cover Rocky
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Balboa we are gonna cover the Creed's the thoroughness of that is still in the air and also take a listen to if you
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haven't already the worst of the best podcast it's a fun one I think and stay safe guys stay safe out there in this
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Cove in nineteen environment you as well yeah you too guys alright I'm stopping this all right
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you